Nbaman2003 (11:25:21 PM): you are officially invited to the thomas jefferson performance of woody allen's "Don't Drink the Water" to be performed april 19, 20, 26, 27 at 7:00 in the thomas jefferson auditorium
Cyde2 (11:26:44 PM): you are officially invited to the montgomery blair performance of anonymous student's "Doggy-Style Sex" to be performed weekdays afterschool at 3:30pm behind the building near the maryland avenue hallway
Nbaman2003 (11:27:42 PM): don't be disgusting
Nbaman2003 (11:27:45 PM): i'm serious
Cyde2 (11:27:51 PM): i'm serious
Nbaman2003 (11:27:57 PM): come to see the show
Nbaman2003 (11:28:24 PM): puleeeeeeez?
Nbaman2003 (11:32:50 PM): give me one good reason not to besides that it's a half hour away from where you live
Cyde2 (11:46:16 PM): so how's megan marsili? and that other guy whose name I forgot?
Nbaman2003 (11:47:17 PM): oh....like hell i know
Nbaman2003 (11:47:26 PM): i don't know megan that well
Cyde2 (11:47:29 PM): he's a senior now
Cyde2 (11:47:38 PM): he gets into a lot of trouble with the law because of his bad driving
Nbaman2003 (11:47:40 PM): and as for the other guy......i don't know who you refer to
Cyde2 (11:47:49 PM): and his best friend does a lot of drugs and was megan's boyfriend or something>
Cyde2 (11:47:52 PM): ?
Nbaman2003 (11:48:06 PM): tommy velarde
Cyde2 (11:48:15 PM): well, tommy is the one who does drugs
Cyde2 (11:48:19 PM): but his friend is the one I know
Nbaman2003 (11:49:46 PM): can't tell ya
Cyde2 (11:49:55 PM): oh well
Cyde2 (11:50:02 PM): i guess tj is kinda big huh?
Nbaman2003 (11:50:50 PM): 1600.....it's not small
Cyde2 (11:53:01 PM): 1600 nerds all in one place ... you'd think that so much brainpower in such a small area would cause a quantum black hole to form ....
Cyde2 (11:53:07 PM): ... generating Super Brain.
Nbaman2003 (11:54:05 PM): you'd think, wouldn't you
Nbaman2003 (11:54:17 PM): trouble is none of us has any common sense
Cyde2 (11:54:29 PM): i knew that, judging by how many of you do drugs ...
Nbaman2003 (11:55:44 PM): it's not that many, you'd be suprised
Cyde2 (11:56:02 PM): maybe the guys I worked with were an atypical sample, then?
Nbaman2003 (11:57:58 PM): sounds like it
Nbaman2003 (11:59:34 PM): well, i'm off to bed
Cyde2 (11:59:39 PM): g'night
Cyde2 (11:59:41 PM): ohhh btw
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Cyde2 (11:59:50 PM): (if you haven't already)
Nbaman2003 (11:59:51 PM): i have
Cyde2 (11:59:55 PM): well it's been updated ...
Nbaman2003 (12:00:03 AM): i like your eexistentialism work
Cyde2 (12:00:07 AM): heehee
Nbaman2003 (12:00:12 AM): serious
Cyde2 (12:00:13 AM): i guess you checked it *all* out huh?
Nbaman2003 (12:00:20 AM): i share similar thoughts
Cyde2 (12:00:24 AM): well then, not as much is updated as desired
Cyde2 (12:00:26 AM): well, that's cool
Nbaman2003 (12:01:00 AM): my belief is that when death occurs, our brain switches gears to perceive an ocean of time the second before we die
Nbaman2003 (12:01:48 AM): whereupon you lapse into a dream that consumes your consciousness for what seems to you to be forever
Cyde2 (12:01:52 AM): okay that may be your belief - but what exactly is the scientific basis of that? your brain can't "speed up" ... nerve impulses can't travel faster than 200 miles per hour.
Nbaman2003 (12:02:15 AM): exactly the opposite.....it would slow down
Cyde2 (12:02:18 AM): under maximum arousal conditions time appears to travel two times as slow .. .that's the maximum of the perceived time dilation effect you're going to experience
Cyde2 (12:02:28 AM): how in the world does it slow down when you're dead in the next second?!?!
Nbaman2003 (12:02:44 AM): your perception of time slows down
Cyde2 (12:02:50 AM): when you're dead, you're dead, your brain is dead, and you don't perceive ANYTHING
Nbaman2003 (12:03:19 AM): you don't get me
Cyde2 (12:03:32 AM): obviously not
Cyde2 (12:03:36 AM): elaborate
Nbaman2003 (12:04:00 AM): would you not concede that a person could live their life with a condition that caused them to experience time at a different rate than the rest of the world?
Cyde2 (12:04:12 AM): no that's not possible
Cyde2 (12:04:20 AM): i wouldn't concede that
Cyde2 (12:04:36 AM): time travels at the CONSTANT rate of one second experienced per one second elapsed time
Nbaman2003 (12:04:43 AM): and why not
Cyde2 (12:04:51 AM): because time isn't variable!!!
Nbaman2003 (12:04:58 AM): that would depend on how you define a second
Cyde2 (12:05:20 AM): a second is 12630000000 oscillations of a quartz particle, approximately.
Cyde2 (12:05:24 AM): that doesn't change
Cyde2 (12:05:27 AM): never will change
Cyde2 (12:05:29 AM): time isn't variable
Nbaman2003 (12:05:52 AM): what i'm saying is.....people can experience each of those oscillations at what appears to them to be a slower time
Nbaman2003 (12:06:13 AM): however, their actions coincide with this experienceing such that the rest of the world sees them as in tune
Cyde2 (12:06:53 AM): so you're saying that some people may perceive stuff as being slower, thus they are thinking quickly in comparison to the universe?
Nbaman2003 (12:06:59 AM): everything in reality occurs at the same speed, it's just a matter of how the electrical impulses in the brain experience the passage of time
Cyde2 (12:07:02 AM): and therefore my speed of neuron limit comes into play
Nbaman2003 (12:07:34 AM): speed is distance traveled over time
Nbaman2003 (12:08:01 AM): allow me to give a different example
Cyde2 (12:08:06 AM): <nitpick>speed is average velocity over time</nitpick>
Nbaman2003 (12:08:28 AM): the color yellow
Nbaman2003 (12:08:39 AM): you perceive it as your yellow, i perceive it as mine
Cyde2 (12:08:52 AM): um, no
Cyde2 (12:09:07 AM): the color yellow is defined as a frequency of light somewhere in the 450-500 mhz range
Cyde2 (12:09:15 AM): (I could give you an exact value, but whatever)
Cyde2 (12:09:21 AM): (would require actual research)
Cyde2 (12:09:32 AM): yellow IS NOT variable, just like time isn't
Nbaman2003 (12:09:42 AM): why not? suppose our retinae intercept the frequency of this light and translate it into a perceiveable image that differs?
Nbaman2003 (12:10:25 AM): the color itself is not variable but our perception of it may be different but will always remain consistent within itself
Nbaman2003 (12:10:50 AM): i may see it as my yellow but you may see it as my green
Nbaman2003 (12:10:57 AM): i may see it as your purple
Cyde2 (12:11:02 AM): okay
Cyde2 (12:11:19 AM): but in the end yellow is yellow and it's your own fault if your retinas are screwed up
Cyde2 (12:11:29 AM): that doesn't change the nature of yellow
Cyde2 (12:11:42 AM): just as your brain becoming highly aroused in fight/flight situations doesn't change the nature of time
Cyde2 (12:11:57 AM): sure, you may _feel_ as if time is going a little slower, but not much more so than usual
Cyde2 (12:12:11 AM): much more is physically impossible according to neural physics
Nbaman2003 (12:12:19 AM): why can't you see my yellow as your purple simply because you've assigned the name purple to it through learning that it is so
Cyde2 (12:12:25 AM): what the brain lacks for in serial processing speed, it makes up for in billions of parallel processes
Cyde2 (12:12:39 AM): I know Mark, trust me, I've thought that exact same thing and had trouble telling it to people
Cyde2 (12:12:52 AM): It's pretty deep, as intellectual thoughts go
Nbaman2003 (12:12:55 AM): regardless.....why can't it be posible
Cyde2 (12:13:10 AM): because it's against the laws of physics! time doesn't DO that!
Nbaman2003 (12:13:17 AM): what does your brain perceive when you die?
Nbaman2003 (12:13:42 AM): nothing?
Nbaman2003 (12:13:47 AM): then define nothing
Cyde2 (12:14:02 AM): no no no
Cyde2 (12:14:06 AM): that's an irrelevant question
Nbaman2003 (12:14:11 AM): why?
Cyde2 (12:14:16 AM): there isn't even a brain to perceive anything because there IS NO BRAIn
Cyde2 (12:14:23 AM): when you die, all neural activity ceases, and then it decays
Cyde2 (12:14:35 AM): conscience is nothing unique or special, it's simply electrical/neural activity in the brain
Cyde2 (12:14:42 AM): when you die, your own outlook on the world goes with it
Cyde2 (12:14:46 AM): nothing remains
Nbaman2003 (12:14:58 AM): so then what?
Cyde2 (12:15:02 AM): so then nothing
Cyde2 (12:15:04 AM): you're dead
Nbaman2003 (12:15:08 AM): what is nothing?
Cyde2 (12:15:18 AM): doesn't matter, none of us will ever experience it
Cyde2 (12:15:26 AM): dead brains don't experience anything
Cyde2 (12:15:41 AM): note that there is a tautological difference between nothing and not anything
Nbaman2003 (12:15:58 AM): that's where i think you're wrong
Nbaman2003 (12:16:11 AM): i believe there is such a thing as consciousness
Nbaman2003 (12:16:20 AM): it is responsible for feeling and logic
Cyde2 (12:16:24 AM): You need to take AP Psychology.
Nbaman2003 (12:16:39 AM): AP Psych won't change my opinion
Cyde2 (12:16:41 AM): Well yeah, there is such a thing as conciousness, but it's nothing more than the physical processes of the brain
Cyde2 (12:16:58 AM): It won't change your opinion, it will *inform* you of these matters and your opinion will change of its own accord with true facts
Nbaman2003 (12:17:12 AM): ok.....what about like a photograph
Cyde2 (12:17:26 AM): what about a photo?
Nbaman2003 (12:17:44 AM): suppose you take a mental snapshot the second before you die
Cyde2 (12:17:54 AM): okay ...
Nbaman2003 (12:18:04 AM): and your brain loses the ability to perceive the next second
Cyde2 (12:18:10 AM): then the second you die it disippates as your brain shuts down and neural activity ceases
Cyde2 (12:18:14 AM): errr, dissipates
Nbaman2003 (12:18:30 AM): so that photograph is imprinted on what could be called your memory
Cyde2 (12:18:47 AM): "memory" is nothing more than a physical process of the brain's neurons
Nbaman2003 (12:18:58 AM): your consciousness never achieves that next second
Cyde2 (12:19:01 AM): when you die, memory obviously ceases as well as the brain rots and decomposes and loses its orders
Cyde2 (12:19:04 AM): yes, because it dies
Nbaman2003 (12:19:19 AM): i'm losing you
Cyde2 (12:19:30 AM): you *neveR* had me
Nbaman2003 (12:19:36 AM): look
Cyde2 (12:19:56 AM): i am looking but am i seeing?
Cyde2 (12:21:01 AM): Ask a guy a certain question and the answer is apple pie, ask a girl that same question and the answer is a banana, what's the question? :-D
Nbaman2003 (12:21:26 AM): i donno
Cyde2 (12:21:40 AM): think, use that brain of your's before it dies
Nbaman2003 (12:22:17 AM): what do you want to eat for your sexual innuendo dinner?
Cyde2 (12:22:30 AM): No, the answer is what is your favorite food, dipwad
Cyde2 (12:22:38 AM): geez, you're so perverted
Nbaman2003 (12:22:40 AM): right
Nbaman2003 (12:22:52 AM): it takes a sick mind to come up with that
Cyde2 (12:22:58 AM): anyway, gotta go to bed, it's 12:30!!! and school is tomorrow
Nbaman2003 (12:23:04 AM): right
Cyde2 (12:23:05 AM): and I've finished my homework anyway
Nbaman2003 signed off at 12:23:24 AM.