Are elected Democrats spineless, or just old?
The latest news on the warrantless wiretapping front is that the Democrats are poised to roll over once again and make permanent the six month expanded eavesdropping extension they passed not too long ago. Their excuse? They don’t want to look weak on national security. The linked DailyKos story posits that by not wanting to look weak on national security, and by rolling over and passing legislation that they disagree with once again even though they control both houses, they are just making themselves look weak in general. It’s hard to argue against it making them look weak. The 2006 election was all about us voters standing up and demanding change, and now that our guys won, why aren’t we getting change?
Allow me to be cynical for a bit. I don’t think the reason the Democrats consistently pass legislation unpopular with their base is because they don’t want to look weak on national security. I think it’s because a lot of them truly don’t share our values. They aren’t really progressive. Just like the Republicans pander to the theocrat base, then conveniently never get around to passing the religiously motivated legislation that they want, I think the Democrats are pandering to us. They act strong on civil liberties during primary season, but once they’re in office, their actions speak louder than words, and it turns out they really aren’t as progressive as we had hoped.
One thing about politicians is that, uniformly, they are almost all old. Barack Obama, widely considered a young, “fresh” face, is 46! And being old really doesn’t mesh well with being progressive. A person’s values are generally set when they are young in life, and don’t change much afterwards. That’s why old people seem to be more conservative than young people; it’s simply because, over time, society has become more progressive and liberal, and what was once left sixty years ago is now right.
The United States has a long history of becoming more liberal over time, with conservatives fighting tooth and nail every step of the way. First it was ending slavery, then giving women the right to vote, then the New Deal which prevented rampant widespread poverty, then civil rights for minorities, and then effective environmental protection. There are Democrats who think they are progressive simply because they agreed with Martin Luther King’s views decades ago when so many didn’t, even though the battle lines have now shifted far leftwards and are primarily concerned with giving equal rights to homosexuals.
Our Democratic politicians do think of themselves as progressive — for a definition of what progressive meant decades ago when they were growing up, anyway. This is why they consistently go against modern young progressives when it comes to issues like preventing government spying on American citizens. Not wanting to appear weak on national security is merely an excuse. There will always be a lag time between what society is ready to accept and when it will actually happen. But the march of history really doesn’t bode well for the conservatives. Now hopefully we can get rid of this silly obsession with modesty soon.
October 10th, 2007 at 03:17
What silly obsession with modesty? I rather like my pants, thanks.
Though I have a sneaking suspicion that I’m a little off-base.
October 10th, 2007 at 09:21
No, I can’t say that you are off-base. Maybe you like pants, but why should everyone else wear pants? Speaking as someone who went to beaches in Italy: you get over seeing naked people on the order of a few hours. Considering the decreased modesty laws would last a lifetime after that, that’s not a bad break-in period at all.
October 10th, 2007 at 14:42
Hmm… I’ve never thought of myself as conservative, but…
Except for the purpose of generally more freedom, I don’t see a good reason. It would have fairly little effect, I suspect, as many establishments would quickly move to make pants-required (or similar) laws. Actually, I’m sort of imagining the “No shirt, no shoes, no service” signs that you see in 7-11 and such places.
The idea of some guy walking in in a tank top wearing a pair of sandals is somewhat disturbing. Again, maybe I’m more conservative than I thought.
October 10th, 2007 at 15:02
You’re focusing too much on the negatives. Imagine all of the positives, including uncensored movies on television! And yes, private establishments would be free to set their own dress codes.
This is more of an issue regarding beaches and such though. I really don’t think you’re going to see anyone walking around naked in the middle of the city merely because it is now legal, especially when the weather is cold. It’s already legal in New York City, Washington DC, and other places, for women to walk around topless (some kind of equality thing with men), but it’s not a big deal at all. As a society, we really need to get over this preoccupation with shame of the naked body. If you have to see a few naked guys in the process, so what, you’ll live. It’s not like you haven’t already seen far more than that in pornography.
October 10th, 2007 at 21:03
[Insert feigned shock about porn here]
It’s not that I disagree with you and I think it’s a bad thing. I just don’t really see enough positives to make it a worthwhile cause over something else, especially with the amount of work it would take.
You wouldn’t see me without clothes in any case. They’re too handy; pockets and belts and whatnot. Though I can totally imagine someone saying “Wait up, I gotta grab my pockets!” and strapping on the pockets from an old pair of jeans.
I can understand that you would want the society as a whole to “get over this preoccupation with shame of the naked body”, but as you’ve said, it’s not really a big deal*. I mean, what purpose would it serve? Great, now people can wander around without the few square inches of clothing they’re currently wearing, if they want. What does that change?
*Not quite