Comments on: The unexplained bizarre deaths of 9 Russian hikers in 1959 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:39:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: chedca http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-198693 chedca Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:13:36 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-198693 their deaths were facilitated, that much is clear although cathy has a good point that in 22 days there must have been snowfall - but this kind of detail would be immediately described in the initial investigation. a feb thaw that she suggests is exactly what would preserve footprints from wind in their refreezing come nighttime with taking the articles facts as they are, this is along the lines of what i think could have happened the camp was attacked from underneath! with something coming up through the snow in the night before they were dressed. 5 of them fled in the snow through a hole in their tent (with the path to the exit obstructed) and regrouped at the pine tree site nearby where 2 ultimately remained and from where 3 died trying to return to the camp, for their supplies i presume. there was evidence of somebody having tried to climb the pine tree - assessing status of the threat they escaped together. this is the "first five" mentioned to be found with brown, tanned faces for which i offer no explanation . the 4 remaining of the group must have been captured by the threat, the nature of their wounds suggests suggests they were tortured (the removal of dubinina's tounge) before they were dressed with what clothes were around, and buried. i suspect also, that a pair of officials (like ski patrol) were first to respond after hearing the screams of the party, which could carry a great distance in the mountains. they themselves or whoever they called to help must have interfered with the scene in some way. as for the orbs, im of the opinion that phenomena like this happen when there is something interesting to be observed, see, nasa's "smoking gun" inquisition their deaths were facilitated, that much is clear
although cathy has a good point that in 22 days there must have been snowfall – but this kind of detail would be immediately described in the initial investigation. a feb thaw that she suggests is exactly what would preserve footprints from wind in their refreezing come nighttime

with taking the articles facts as they are, this is along the lines of what i think could have happened

the camp was attacked from underneath!
with something coming up through the snow in the night before they were dressed. 5 of them fled in the snow through a hole in their tent (with the path to the exit obstructed) and regrouped at the pine tree site nearby where 2 ultimately remained and from where 3 died trying to return to the camp, for their supplies i presume. there was evidence of somebody having tried to climb the pine tree – assessing status of the threat they escaped together. this is the “first five” mentioned to be found with brown, tanned faces for which i offer no explanation .

the 4 remaining of the group must have been captured by the threat, the nature of their wounds suggests suggests they were tortured (the removal of dubinina’s tounge) before they were dressed with what clothes were around, and buried.

i suspect also, that a pair of officials (like ski patrol) were first to respond after hearing the screams of the party, which could carry a great distance in the mountains. they themselves or whoever they called to help must have interfered with the scene in some way.

as for the orbs, im of the opinion that phenomena like this happen when there is something interesting to be observed, see, nasa’s “smoking gun” inquisition

]]> By: cathy http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-198028 cathy Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:15:28 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-198028 What I find it mind boggling is that no one questions the foot prints from the tent that 'supposedly' were clear enough to identify who they belonged to, and what footgear the owners were wearing, 22 days after the event. I live in a very cold and snowy region. In 22 days there is usually a huge change in the snow (new snowfall, wind damage, Feb. thaw, etc.). Notice the tent top is covered with snow. To say nothing of what effect the searchers own footprints may have had on the sight. I believe that the soviet government was doing some experimenting and 'got to' the sight prior to the searchers discovering it. These folks altered the sight and placed the footprints and possibly took the bodies in the tent and threw them down the ravine. Two things to keep in mind. 1-science and techolohgy were much more primative at this time & 2-the soviet authorities had absolute life and death powers over their people and could hide & alter anything they wanted so aything official should be taken with a grain of salt. What I find it mind boggling is that no one questions the foot prints from the tent that ‘supposedly’ were clear enough to identify who they belonged to, and what footgear the owners were wearing, 22 days after the event. I live in a very cold and snowy region. In 22 days there is usually a huge change in the snow (new snowfall, wind damage, Feb. thaw, etc.). Notice the tent top is covered with snow. To say nothing of what effect the searchers own footprints may have had on the sight. I believe that the soviet government was doing some experimenting and ‘got to’ the sight prior to the searchers discovering it. These folks altered the sight and placed the footprints and possibly took the bodies in the tent and threw them down the ravine. Two things to keep in mind. 1-science and techolohgy were much more primative at this time & 2-the soviet authorities had absolute life and death powers over their people and could hide & alter anything they wanted so aything official should be taken with a grain of salt.

]]> By: shekiera http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-197959 shekiera Fri, 30 Sep 2011 05:17:28 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-197959 Love this mystery stuff! I too watched it on ancient aliens and I found it to be very mind boggling. A time machine would be ideal now so we could all see just how this went down! Love this mystery stuff! I too watched it on ancient aliens and I found it to be very mind boggling. A time machine would be ideal now so we could all see just how this went down!

]]> By: John http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-197755 John Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:11:52 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-197755 What I've seen on T.V. and read about this incident is that something "unknown" caused these people to cut open their tent and flee for their lives in just their sock feet and little more than their underwear in frigid, sub-zero Russian weather. 2 had skull fractures, 2 had broken ribs, and 1, a female, had her tongue cut out. Some had high levels of radiation with the skin appearing to turn orange, and all of them had suffered from age progression and graying hair. The Russian report says that a, and I quote, "a compelling unknown force" caused their deaths. They then Soviet authorities also closed that mountain off to hikers and skiers for 3 years after the incident. What I’ve seen on T.V. and read about this incident is that something “unknown” caused these people to cut open their tent and flee for their lives in just their sock feet and little more than their underwear in frigid, sub-zero Russian weather. 2 had skull fractures, 2 had broken ribs, and 1, a female, had her tongue cut out. Some had high levels of radiation with the skin appearing to turn orange, and all of them had suffered from age progression and graying hair. The Russian report says that a, and I quote, “a compelling unknown force” caused their deaths. They then Soviet authorities also closed that mountain off to hikers and skiers for 3 years after the incident.

]]> By: Medlocke http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-197753 Medlocke Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:00:00 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-197753 I saw the story about this incident just tonight on the History Channel. Of all thing's, on the program entitled "Ancient Aliens"!! According to their program, some of the 9 had orange looking skin. As if poisoned by radiation. They also said the bodies had suffered from significant age progression, and some had gray hair. This too, unexplained? The tent had in fact been cut open from the inside, and no other tracks other the 9 hikers in their sock feet were found. Very strange, indeed. I saw the story about this incident just tonight on the History Channel. Of all thing’s, on the program entitled “Ancient Aliens”!! According to their program, some of the 9 had orange looking skin. As if poisoned by radiation. They also said the bodies had suffered from significant age progression, and some had gray hair. This too, unexplained? The tent had in fact been cut open from the inside, and no other tracks other the 9 hikers in their sock feet were found. Very strange, indeed.

]]> By: Taylor http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-153165 Taylor Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:38:42 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-153165 Alien life is completely possible for one thing. trillions of galaxies and we have barely explored our solar system. this story is so interesting because of all the loose ends. i dont know what happened but some proffesionals recorded that the footprints and behavior of the victims was as if they were blinded, which might explain the ripping open of the tents in a panic. one of you said an animal ate her tounge. well food is scares in that climate and i dont know any animal that would open a girls mouth and remove a tounge and leave the rest of the body. and she would have had claw marks and tooth marks on her somewhere on her face or something. russian weapons may be possible since it was the cold war but i dont know. the fact that there were not extra foot prints is scary. the signs that they would not return to camp is scary. the fact that the injuries were like getting hit by a car without any bruising or cuts is scary. the radiation is scary. an avalanche would cover the footprints in the snow. witnesses in the area saw orange lights in the sky. Alien life is completely possible for one thing. trillions of galaxies and we have barely explored our solar system. this story is so interesting because of all the loose ends. i dont know what happened but some proffesionals recorded that the footprints and behavior of the victims was as if they were blinded, which might explain the ripping open of the tents in a panic. one of you said an animal ate her tounge. well food is scares in that climate and i dont know any animal that would open a girls mouth and remove a tounge and leave the rest of the body. and she would have had claw marks and tooth marks on her somewhere on her face or something. russian weapons may be possible since it was the cold war but i dont know. the fact that there were not extra foot prints is scary. the signs that they would not return to camp is scary. the fact that the injuries were like getting hit by a car without any bruising or cuts is scary. the radiation is scary. an avalanche would cover the footprints in the snow. witnesses in the area saw orange lights in the sky.

]]> By: Peter Hansen http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-127607 Peter Hansen Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:11:51 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-127607 On the pic of the tent there is bulky snow on top of it. The snow does not seem to have blown there. Ho did that snow get there? On the pic of the tent there is bulky snow on top of it. The snow does not seem to have blown there. Ho did that snow get there?

]]> By: aps http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-123646 aps Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:48:22 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-123646 Most likely answer Mushrooms! they where tripping and ran off into the snow and the chick bit her own tongue off, no brusing was because the sub-zero temps. 2nd most likely nerve gas as the area was used for u.s.s.r milatry training. that would explain the orange skin and the area being closed for three years after Most likely answer Mushrooms! they where tripping and ran off into the snow and the chick bit her own tongue off, no brusing was because the sub-zero temps. 2nd most likely nerve gas as the area was used for u.s.s.r milatry training. that would explain the orange skin and the area being closed for three years after

]]> By: Emma http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-122741 Emma Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:49:08 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-122741 Well - let's see. Avalanche. Hikers go insane with fear nd run away. Explains the shredded tent and why they ran away. Also possibly the orangeskin from lying down in the snow for days on end. The tongue -- well, animals get hungry, no? It is a bit of a mystery though, and I know that my proffered explanation doesn't really clean up all the questions! Well – let’s see. Avalanche. Hikers go insane with fear nd run away. Explains the shredded tent and why they ran away. Also possibly the orangeskin from lying down in the snow for days on end. The tongue — well, animals get hungry, no?

It is a bit of a mystery though, and I know that my proffered explanation doesn’t really clean up all the questions!

]]> By: William (green) http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-33022 William (green) Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:29:33 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-33022 I've had this problem every so often on my blog as well. It's nowhere near as popular as yours, of course, but I have one person who feels the need to comment on every post, but not necessarily with something useful. I think it's some kind of first-post-! syndrome, in my case. I found these links which might be interesting: http://www.lostartofblogging.com/the-comment-etiquette-the-guide-to-proper-blog-commenting http://dariablack.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/the-bloggers-guide-to-comment-etiquette/ http://www.blogherald.com/2007/08/16/time-wasting-blog-comments-comments-policies-and-comment-etiquette/ I’ve had this problem every so often on my blog as well. It’s nowhere near as popular as yours, of course, but I have one person who feels the need to comment on every post, but not necessarily with something useful. I think it’s some kind of first-post-! syndrome, in my case.
I found these links which might be interesting:
http://www.lostartofblogging.com/the-comment-etiquette-the-guide-to-proper-blog-commenting
http://dariablack.wordpress.com/2007/02/13/the-bloggers-guide-to-comment-etiquette/
http://www.blogherald.com/2007/08/16/time-wasting-blog-comments-comments-policies-and-comment-etiquette/

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-32942 Cyde Weys Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:42:03 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-32942 If you didn't post so many comments in a row, you wouldn't have been caught by the spam filter. Generally, blog etiquette says that you carefully consider your comment, then post a single comment. Don't keep coming back and adding more as you think of it. If you didn’t post so many comments in a row, you wouldn’t have been caught by the spam filter. Generally, blog etiquette says that you carefully consider your comment, then post a single comment. Don’t keep coming back and adding more as you think of it.

]]> By: Anonomous http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-32899 Anonomous Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:47 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-32899 How does anything you say explain the woman missing her tongue? How could soldiers kill people from the inside? The coroners said the deaths coudln't be caused by humans.. How would they even move an RTG? How would they get it open? Radiation sickness doesn't cause people to run 1 1/2 kilometers in 30 below Celsius. Theory just doesn't explain anything really How does anything you say explain the woman missing her tongue? How could soldiers kill people from the inside? The coroners said the deaths coudln’t be caused by humans.. How would they even move an RTG? How would they get it open? Radiation sickness doesn’t cause people to run 1 1/2 kilometers in 30 below Celsius. Theory just doesn’t explain anything really

]]> By: Anonomous http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-32898 Anonomous Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:07:22 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-32898 Wow, I wrote a length comment about this but it didn't post for some reason. Anyways the person who foud the possible solution? So they traveled up to 1 1/2 kilometers with the radiation poisoning? If they were so able to move why did they flee from the tent so fast? Also, it is ignorant to say that the Alien theory is laughable. With todays technology we could easily get around 200 years ago unseen. Technology is relative to time... Humans have not been around long compared to the billions of years or more the universe has existed. So the argument that they would have to travel at lightspeed to get here unseen is stupid.. It's the equivalent of us using stealth planes to get around unseen during the caveman years. Also, I am an engineer not just some kid. I know about astrophysics! Do you? I guess you personally visited the billions and billions of galaxies to check for other life huh? I personally think that you are ignorant and laughable! I mean you seriously think that earth is the only planet capable of sustaining life when their are literally billions of other galaxies.. We live in 1 galaxy! I think that you are ignorant and it is laughable that you rule out aliens as a possiblity. I have no idea what happened that day.. and I will not pretend to... The more you know the less you now... Why is it that the Nasa Astronauts had a press conference recently about the government hiding info about UFO's etc? I guess astronauts are laughable to you too huh? You don't even have to do research. Just realize that you are human and that we have existed for a trivial amount of time compared to the universe... Wake up Wow, I wrote a length comment about this but it didn’t post for some reason. Anyways the person who foud the possible solution? So they traveled up to 1 1/2 kilometers with the radiation poisoning? If they were so able to move why did they flee from the tent so fast? Also, it is ignorant to say that the Alien theory is laughable. With todays technology we could easily get around 200 years ago unseen. Technology is relative to time… Humans have not been around long compared to the billions of years or more the universe has existed. So the argument that they would have to travel at lightspeed to get here unseen is stupid.. It’s the equivalent of us using stealth planes to get around unseen during the caveman years. Also, I am an engineer not just some kid. I know about astrophysics! Do you? I guess you personally visited the billions and billions of galaxies to check for other life huh? I personally think that you are ignorant and laughable! I mean you seriously think that earth is the only planet capable of sustaining life when their are literally billions of other galaxies.. We live in 1 galaxy! I think that you are ignorant and it is laughable that you rule out aliens as a possiblity. I have no idea what happened that day.. and I will not pretend to… The more you know the less you now… Why is it that the Nasa Astronauts had a press conference recently about the government hiding info about UFO’s etc? I guess astronauts are laughable to you too huh? You don’t even have to do research. Just realize that you are human and that we have existed for a trivial amount of time compared to the universe… Wake up

]]> By: Anonomous http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-32897 Anonomous Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:56:47 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-32897 Actually, now that I think about it... When you look at those pictures... I guess carrying a RTG through several feet of snow wearing skis and carrying tons of gear would be easy! NOT! I once got lost in a gully in the Rocky Mountains.. I had to get rescued! There is actually zero chance they moved an RTG anywhere! Just look at t hem setting up camp! are you serious? Actually, now that I think about it… When you look at those pictures… I guess carrying a RTG through several feet of snow wearing skis and carrying tons of gear would be easy! NOT! I once got lost in a gully in the Rocky Mountains.. I had to get rescued! There is actually zero chance they moved an RTG anywhere! Just look at t hem setting up camp! are you serious?

]]> By: Anonomous http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-32896 Anonomous Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:53:28 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-32896 Oh and I just checked your source.. Wikipedia... Why not check out the actual article http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=25093 Oh and I just checked your source.. Wikipedia… Why not check out the actual article http://www.sptimes.ru/index.php?action_id=2&story_id=25093

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-17642 Cyde Weys Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:20:07 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-17642 See, now you guys have made it impossible for me to go back and correct that error, because none of these comments would make any sense. See, now you guys have made it impossible for me to go back and correct that error, because none of these comments would make any sense.

]]> By: drinian http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-17641 drinian Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:13:07 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-17641 I'm glad someone else pointed out "piqued" so I didn't have to, and be that guy... <i>The victims had died 6 to 8 hours after their last meal.</i> Sounds like they were experimenting with Taco Bell in the Soviet Union. Seriously, though, it's an interesting story. There have been more recent cases of people in the former Soviet bloc finding big chunks of radioactive material in the wilderness near old military installations and such, but this sounds very different. I’m glad someone else pointed out “piqued” so I didn’t have to, and be that guy…

The victims had died 6 to 8 hours after their last meal.
Sounds like they were experimenting with Taco Bell in the Soviet Union.

Seriously, though, it’s an interesting story. There have been more recent cases of people in the former Soviet bloc finding big chunks of radioactive material in the wilderness near old military installations and such, but this sounds very different.

]]> By: Cyde Weys http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-17628 Cyde Weys Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:27:47 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-17628 Haha, good point. I know about that word, and I knew something was wrong when I was typing out "peak" because it didn't feel right, but I didn't come up with the pique spelling at all. I was internally arguing over "peak" or "peek". Haha, good point. I know about that word, and I knew something was wrong when I was typing out “peak” because it didn’t feel right, but I didn’t come up with the pique spelling at all. I was internally arguing over “peak” or “peek”.

]]> By: William (green) http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-17597 William (green) Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:14:07 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-17597 Go ahead and remove this comment, but... http://www.thefreedictionary.com/piqued Go ahead and remove this comment, but…
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/piqued

]]> By: Iamunknown http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/dyatlov-pass-accident/comment-page-1/#comment-17591 Iamunknown Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:12:16 +0000 http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/02/27/the-unexplained-bizarre-deaths-of-9-russian-hikers-in-1959/#comment-17591 Thanks for the interesting read. I agree that it would make a thrilling dramatisation. Thanks for the interesting read. I agree that it would make a thrilling dramatisation.

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