Possible resolution to the 9 dead Russian hikers mystery

In 1959, nine Russian hikers died in an extremely unlikely set of circumstances. I shan’t rehash everything here, so do read the linked post. But I happened to be hanging out with my friend Greg last weekend and he imparted to me an interesting theory he had about what caused the deaths of the Russian hikers. It seems plausible to me, much more plausible than anything I came up with (and certainly better than the laughable alien theories).

Russia entered the nuclear era with a bang, not a whimper. They saw nuclear technology as the next revolution in generating electricity. As such, they strove to use it everywhere, even when the safety concerns would seemingly override the value of using nuclear (but that’s Communist Russia for you). In particular, Russia employed a great number of Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators (RTGs). The particular model they used was about one meter by one meter by two meters, small enough to fit in pretty much any building. It generated energy not by conducting full-scale atomic fission like in a nuclear reactor but by harnessing the heat given off by the radioactive decay of Strontium 90. It’s the same technology we use to power our spacecraft which journey far away from the Sun (beyond the usefulness limit of solar panels).

The U.S.S.R. employed up to a thousand RTGs that we know of, many in remote lighthouses and navigation beacons. They are slowly being phased out with solar cells and battery packs today, but that technology wasn’t around in the 50s. All they had were the RTGs. And while the radioisotope source in the RTGs is theoretically well-encapsulated inside of a double layer stainless steel, aluminum, and lead casing, it’s easily possible for anyone with tools to gain access to the inside, inadvertently exposing themselves to a deadly dose of radiation.

With all of the background on RTGs taken care of, we return to the case of the nine dead Russian hikers. It is Greg’s theory that they stumbled across an RTG (which is not at all impossible given how widely they were used). The RTG was broken open, either by the hikers themselves, some outside actor, or a simple manufacturing defect. It was giving off heat and the hikers took it back to their tent to keep warm with, possibly mistaking it for some kind of heater. When they realized the true nature of it, probably after experiencing the onset of radiation sickness, they departed their tent in a hurry, stopping not even to put on their clothing.

But it was too late. They had already received a fatal dose of radiation, which they would have died from were it not from dying of weather exposure first. This theory explains many of the facts about the case: why the men fled a perfectly good tent, why they were found with high levels of radiation exposure, even why the military helicopter pilots refused to transport the bodies. The presence of the RTG isn’t mentioned in any of the surviving reports because it was covered up (this was Soviet Russia), and they authorities figured they would rather have the deaths remain an anomaly than have their prized nuclear technology be considered dangerous.

This theory explains pretty much all of the facts of the case except one: how did four of the deceased end up with severe internal injuries yet no internal wounds? The coroners noted the injuries were possibly caused by collision with a vehicle, except that there was no vehicle anywhere in sight. So maybe the source of radioactivity was part of some secret testing or training, and the hikers were first discovered alive by the military and then eliminated, leaving only corpses and a cleaned up scene for the hikers’ friends to stumble upon much later during the recovery search? Can you come up with a better theory?

In the end, I suspect we will never know the truth. The Communist government of Soviet Russia seems to have had good reason to cover up the particulars of this case. So in the end all of the facts were recorded as anomalous, while truthfully, there were people involved in a cover-up effort who knew exactly what happened.

102 Responses to “Possible resolution to the 9 dead Russian hikers mystery”

  1. drinian Says:

    I mentioned a similar theory earlier, and the problem is that there’s no reason for a RTG to be in the area.

    Incidentally, there was a lighthouse in the US experimentally fitted with an RTG in the mid-60s — Baltimore Light, which is about ten miles north of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge.

  2. Anonomous Says:

    Your theory hardly explains anything… How did the woman lose her tongue? How could the military have hurt them from only the inside? If the hikers were capable of walking over 1 1/2 kilometers from the tent they probably weren’t so sick from the radiation poisoning huh? If they were so sick from the radiation poisoning how could they possibly get 1 1/2 kilometers away? They were in a rush because of iminent danger! Not to mention that they would not be able to move an RTG! Or get it open with their available tools! Are you seriously saying that they found an RTG and opened it? Also, why is the alien idea laughable? We live in 1 galaxy. There are literally billions of other galaxies… I believe that it is laughable to think that among those billions of galaxies there are no other planets capable of supporting life. Also, people make the argument that we can see light years away and the aliens would have to travel at light speed to get here unseen. This is not true… With todays technology we could easily get around 200 years ago without being seen. Human years are an insignificant amount of time compared to the existence of the universe. Thus, if aliens do exist, and their civilization has been around for a long time… then they can probably get around without us seeing them or knowing they are there. (Like a stealth plane would get around cavemen). Oh and by the way… I am an engineer.. not some kid… I have done my research… I do not know what happened that day.. nobody does.. but ruling aliens out as an impossibilty is ignorant. The universe has existed for billions of years…. It goes back to the saying “the more you know the less you know.” Anything is a possibility…. Or I guess you magically figured out aliens don’t exist in your human life time by visiting billions of galaxies… If that is the case then I apologize. However, technology is relative… every generation feels they are on the cutting edge.. The truth is that in 100 yrs from now all current technology will be obsolete. There will be technology people of today could not fathom… And we will probably have technology that would allow us to get around todays world unseen.. That is in 100 yrs… Think about the possibilities in billions of years… I also suppose you feel that astronauts are laughable too… Nasa astronauts somewhat recently held a press conference stating that the government is hiding information about UFO’s etc. If you don’t want to do your research you can probably find the hour long CNN w/ Larry King that he just did a few days ago to get you started… Actually do some research before you talk about the existence of Aliens… Do you know anything about Astrophysics?? I do! I think you are ignorant! wake up people

  3. dingo Says:

    To Anonomous:

    Who says you can’t walk 1.5km immediately after radiation poisoning?

    Woman without the tongue… assuming above theory is true, she is about to die naked in the snow from a combination of radiation exposure and hypothermia, I doubt she would even notice it if she accidentally bit her own tongue during whole ordeal.

    When did Nasa astronauts “somewhat” recently held a press conference stating that the government is hiding information about UFO’s “etc.” ???

    The one hour Larry King was an interview on some guy who claimed he filmed an UFO. Judging by King’s interview style, he hardly has the credibility for making the official announcement that “We are being visited by aliens”

    I doubt you are an engineer, you certainly do not speak like one… and how does astrophysics relate to aliens? You wouldn’t have brought that up if you really knew about it.

  4. dingo_sl Says:

    Good theory.. however it still doesn’t explain about the 4 deaths with fatal skull fracture and crushed rib-cage, without any external tissue damage. Doesn’t seem like a result of radiation poisoning.

  5. William (green) Says:

    “In Soviet Russia, cover-ups discover you.”

  6. Never Going Hiking in Russia... Says:

    It is indeed a well thought out idea, but the one fatal flaw I find is this….

    If the injuries were indeed caused by a crash from a vehicle ( a victim biting off his/her own tongue inadvertently as the result of a car crash is not at all unbelievable ) A, how did such a powerful vehicle that could climb the mountain and carry the military men for the cover up, not break or knock over any trees that would surly have been notice?

    And most importantly… how is it possible to erase the tracks in the snow from both the vehicle and the person/persons needed to execute the actual cover up? A key piece of evidence included in the incident is that there were absolutely no other tracks in the area besides the doomed hikers.

  7. sandy Says:

    How can anyone even guess what happened if there was a cover up? Any of the ‘evidence’ you are trying to piece together may be (lies) part of the the cover up. Probably no one can figure it out because it’s impossible because there are too many lies mixed in w/ half truths.

  8. Jonathan (from England) Says:

    This is one of the better explanations I’ve seen.
    Fascinating story isn’t it? I’ve been reading about the Dyatlov pass incident for the past 6 hours or so! Good to see that there are others as interested in it as I am.

    Top blogging!

    Jonathan

  9. Chris Says:

    An RTG is too large to bring into the tent they had. But, I think you are on the right track. These were students that went to a university that had close ties to the Russian military. Maybe they had an experimental heater similar to what you had described with the RTG. I found it odd that they decided to camp in the open, when they could have stayed in the forest, much more protected from the elements, that was only a mile away. They couldn’t go back for their cloths if they were radiated.

    The others that were crushed? Military cover up, fall, avalanche, etc..

    I read reports that the lady missing the tounge was found in a flowing strem…Easily could have happened after she died or from a fall, avalanche etc…

  10. Ryan B Says:

    “end up with severe internal injuries yet no internal wounds? ”

    I think you meant to say external wounds, right?

    Very interesting case.

  11. wasabinoir Says:

    Rabies explains all of the reported injuries and actions.

  12. Pablo Says:

    Are there any pictures of this case?
    does anyone know?

  13. Cora Says:

    I’ve heard they cut off the tongue or anus skin for testing levels of radiation on a human of which i believe has caused the tan skin grey hair. Strong radiation weapons could cause only internal injuries maybe? I guess it was all planned.

  14. Will II Says:

    I think it’s interesting that the traumatic injuries occured in the forest. It would seem there was some kind of encounter in the woods. I imagine this was a terrifiying event. Something freaked them out to the point that they ran from the tent, perhaps in a state of hysteria. I read that one of the party may have exited the tent prior to the event: perhaps something else entered the tent? It could have just been noises outside. In a panic people will trample eachother. One of the team may have cut the tent to escape amidst the confusion.

    One almost always heads to lower elevation when retreating on a mountain.

    They probably made a fire on the edge of the woods frightened between going further or back ot the tent. They would be in desperate condition, it become virtually impossible to perform any kind of manual task as frostbite and hypothermia sink in. Getting a fire started is impressive given their condition.

    Perhaps 4 venture into the woods looking for shelter and are attacked. My take would be some kind of entity in the trees. I don’t see any other explanation other than something truly sinister. I can’t even imagine. The remaining people would be frozen or near frozen and may have been compelled to retreat back to the tent (lesser of two evils)…there must have been some reason they didn’t want to go back to the tent…there must have been something there.

    I do a fair bit of hiking and have spent many nights alone in the mountains. There is a kind of primal fear you just can’t shake when you’re alone like that. I wish I hadn’t read this! I was freaked enough without having this in the back of my head :)

  15. Wade Says:

    I am not very well read about the incident, however I don’t like the sound of “It couldn’t have been caused by a human”; the human body can produce a very large amount of force. Perhaps it is possible that 1 could have suffered a psychotic episode (worst episode ever).

    His behavior could have caused the other campers to leave their safety of the tent in a hurry. This would explain the tent being ripped from the inside. He could have bludgeoned the one camper in the head. The other might have fallen biting off her tongue.

    The attacker could have been in full sprint at someone who swung a full back pack into him. It is blunt and padded and could explain lack of external injury and likely the acceleration from the bag combined with the force of a man running at full speed would have produced enough force for internal injury.

    The other campers would have been exhausted mentally and psychologically from the ordeal. Its likely they would have also been disoriented and simply froze to death where they were.

    Once again I am not that well read on the incident, but this could in theory account for what I have read.

  16. schmitty Says:

    One thing that has been ignored is the eyewitness testimony that there were orange orbs seen in the night sky in the direction of the incident by another group of hikers 50 kilometers away on the same evening. There were also allegedly reports of these orbs by other independent witnesses, the meteorology service, and the military from February to March of 1959. Also the victim with the missing tongue,… the tongue was MISSING, not just bitten. Seems it was removed for some reason. The cover up is typical of a government that does not want the public to know about things that they themselves do not understand. It’s a very intriguing story that I have just recently learned of and it fascinates me.

  17. Giorgio's Hair Says:

    Really going for the alien explanation. Very weird, but one thing is for sure, we do not have all the evidence. I don’t believe we should be so closed minded. At the moment there are pros and cons for all explainations.

    More info is needed.

  18. DrackLopez Says:

    I somewhat remember hearing this story years ago. I didn’t recall most of the details. I’m a firm believer in the notion that the most simple explination is usually the correct one. I’ll be damned if I can come up with a simple explination for this one though. The thing that really sticks with me is that there were no foot prints other than theirs leading to the tent. So what was it that frightend them to the point that they would run out of the only shelter on a February night in Russia? A bear or other wild animal would make sense, but no bear tracks. I’m also assuming that there was at least one gun in the party for protection, but there doesn’t seem to any evidence that they tried to defend themselves. This is one of those things where a big chunk of the story is missing. This missing chunk would probably probably lead to the simple explination. As for the Aliens, I believe it is possible that other life exists in the universe. But why would they travel millions of light years just to fuck up some Russians camping in the mountains. Seems like they would have better things to do. Bottom line, nobody has any idea and thats why its an intersting story.

  19. Lisa Says:

    Any one have access to or have seen the actual autopsy findings?

  20. Kat Says:

    What about massive microwave bursts? That was my first thought.

  21. Joseph Says:

    I just saw a report about this included on a television show in late September, early October of 2011. While I do not generally consider the referenced program to be an objective, unbiased source of accurate information (the focus of the program is on aliens and “Ancient Astronauts”), the details as reported seem to match the facts described above.

    I mention it because they showed a number of very grisly photos and sections of film that were allegedly from the Russian investigation, so unless they misrepresented what these images were, visual images of the scene and the bodies do exist. I believe they said that these images became available as a result of the relaxing of information restrictions that followed the collapse of the USSR – much formerly classified information has been released. Frankly, I found some of the pictures to be quite disturbing. Seeing that show was my first introduction to this mystery, and I sought more information on-line.

    The theory presented at the beginning of this discussion is an interesting one, and certainly has some compelling reasoning. My personal reaction to the RTG theory is this: another post already questioned whether an RTG was small enough to fit inside their tent. Based on the images I saw of the tents, I would definitely say the answer was no. Setting aside the size of such an object, how much did they weigh? I cannot help but think that it would have been too heavy for these people to carry using their own strength, under the conditions that existed on the mountain. And for that matter, where would it have come from? My understanding is that they chose to stop in the open, choosing to not return to the greater shelter of the forest, perhaps because of a turn in the weather.

    The pictures I saw of their campsite did not show any sign of the type of structure an RTG would have been housed in. It was open,
    empty mountainside devoid of so much as a dog-house. Lastly, even though this was the late 1950′s, and knowledge of radiation was likely limited, I think we should give credit to the fact that these were University students, and one might reasonably expect, fairly intelligent and well-informed young people. Even if a smart young person would not recognize the possible risk of taking an unknown
    device into their tent simply because it was producing heat, what they would surely know was the likely repercussions of unauthorized use of/damaging of/moving of an object that obviously belonged to the Soviet Government. I agree that said government was likely to use force against its own citizens, and cover-up any incident that might cause embarrassment or a security breach. Surely those hikers knew this as well? I think they would have been unlikely to do anything that might get them in trouble with the authorities.

    That said, I do believe that the Soviet government would have staged a cover-up and probably did. The question in my mind is… what exactly did they cover up and why? What was the nature of the information that they sought to suppress? Given the known actions of other world governments thought to be far more benevolent than the USSR, I don’t even rule out that some sort of weapon might have been tested on them. The main reason I find that unlikely is that I doubt the military would have used as targets someone as valuable as college students, when a disposable political dissident would do. However, I don’t think that theory explains
    all the known facts, and that’s what I have yet to hear: a theory that does.

    Here are the facts that puzzle me the most:

    The various potential explanations I have heard put forth for the internal damage with no external injuries do not convince me.
    Any of these impacts would at the least leave bruising on the skin. It is my understanding (perhaps wrong) that none was present.

    My understanding was that the young woman’s entire tongue was missing, and to appearances, had been cut out. Since she was to my knowledge the only one with this bizarre damage, the possible explanations boggle the mind. There was a time when one’s tongue might have been cut out to prevent them from giving testimony against an attacker, or revealing some secret, but in an age of literacy that’s hardly effective! I was also given the impression that at least one of the others had some sort of damage that was perceived as deliberate mutilation, but I’m afraid I don’t remember what it was right now.

    I admit that I don’t know a great deal about the effects of radiation exposure. But from what I do know, the impression I have is that if a person were subjected to a sufficient source of radiation to cause the symptoms I saw in those photographed corpses, death would have been nearly instant. My first impression when I saw the images was that these were old bodies of people that had died on the mountain a long time ago…you may have seen examples of corpses recovered from extremely cold regions where they are sort of “freeze-dried” by the elements, almost mummified. That was the way these looked to me. I assume that’s the reason the accounts said that some of the bodies appeared to be “prematurely aged”. In addition, the first thing I would expect from radiation sickness would be hair loss. I don’t recalling seeing that, except in the case of those bodies that looked like they’d been exposed to intense heat, and appeared burned. (A further detail of that which bothers me is that there wasn’t a bare patch of earth where the snow had been melted?)

    My opinion? My opinion is that I can’t explain the condition of the bodies, particularly the highly varied condition of them, and especially given where they were found. Its clear to me that whatever prompted them to leave the tent, it was sufficiently terrifying
    and/or threatening that they were not thinking beyond momentary survival, or were hysterical. You do not tear your way out of your tent in the middle of the night and run out onto a snow-covered mountainside BAREFOOT unless something is triggering your survival instincts on a most basic level. So what was it? It seems logical that if the threat was outside, they wouldn’t have rushed out of the tent? What could have been inside the tent to illicit that response? The tent I saw footage of was wrecked, but apparently most of the damage was done from the inside…

    While I too prefer the simplest explanation, I don’t rule out so-called “super-natural” explanations, of whatever kind. My feeling is that many things we now consider hard science were the mumbo-jumbo of the past. The computer on which I’m typing this is powered by electricity, that in ancient Greece might have been seen as a manageable tool only in the hand of Zeus!

  22. D. Chase Says:

    i think the theory is the a good realistic approach to what may have happened. I think the reason there was internal damage may have been from a nuclear energy wave that was released when they opened the reactor. That could easily explain the internal injuries without very much external tissue damage. think about if you put a hot pocket in a microwave, if it is in there very long, it will release its internal contents because of the microwaves and pressure, but the outside is not changed very much at all. why couldn’t this be the same in this situation? it isn’t that I don’t believe in UFO’s, I do, but usually, the simplest explanation is the correct one, ask Einstein.

  23. trista Says:

    It would seem to me that in the age of Bigfoot hunts, crop circle investigations and high tech ghost detecting equipment, this would be a magnet for conspiracy theorists and supernatural buffs. Of all the unexplained obsessions people gravitate to, this is the most compelling story I’ve heard, well, ever. Get on it people! Sample that soil, exhume the bodies, pick apart the reports. I would read that book.

  24. Jesus Says:

    This is so interesting, but I get scared with stuff that have anything that have to deal with aliens or UFO

  25. Kacey Says:

    OK, well I saw the program “Ancient Aliens” on the History channel and became quite interested in this story. I read several articles and thought a couple people here had some very constructive things to say. While I don’t discount a possibility of the idea that it might be an attack from some ET’s, I agree with the idea that there are some major holes in this story. Considering the time frame that this happened, I think the Russian government has probably hidden some pieces of this puzzle for security reasons and/or have withheld vital information because they can’t really explain it either………………….?????

  26. yugo Says:

    This would be a very plausible scenario if it wasn’t completely hypothetical. With the exception of statements of radiation contamination (they didn’t say what kind, strontium, plutonium or other) and the reports of a scrap metal.

    The potential scenario is that they discovered a plane crash that was carrying a RTG. These things weigh 14 lbs and have a surface temperature of 300 degrees centigrade. It is plausible that, if this occurred, they would take it to their tent to use for a heat source. Not realizing that they were receiving a fatal dose of radiation (if the containment and shielding was damaged in a crash).

    This doesn’t explain why they cut open their tents or why they fled in their underwear at -25C.

    It also doesn’t explain the injuries.

    The only explination is that they died from the radiation and the other injuries, the cutting of the tent, even the state of the bodies being partly clothed could be caused by a coverup. There is no real reason why the military would do this, since the use of these energy sources was fairly commonplace and not top secret. However, if another type of source was used that was secret or if they simply didn’t want to take responsibility for it, or other reasons (psyops agains the u.s.) then they could do this thing.

    Definitely a creative hypothesis!

  27. Schmittywargenjagermesiter Says:

    I saw this story on Ancient Aliens as well and let me tell that is not a reliable source of information. They give you half truths surrounded by whole lies, intentional disinformation. You have to remember no matter how controversial a show is, tv is illuminati holy ground. Nothing happens there without their knowledge and approval. Now having said that i do believe in aliens. I believe these hikers ran into something scary enough to make them haul ass for 1.5 kilometers barefoot through the snow and ice. Not much will scare grown men like that.Not a bear, wolves, or any other kind a animal. Not soldiers with guns, not random RTG just laying there would make them run either. Then the bodies are found and there’s radiation poisoning? A tongue missing, bodies crushed only inside with no damage to skin. Discoloration in patches on the skin, ect. These poor people were mutilated. Toyed with then mutilated. Whatever attacked them could have killed them within seconds, but didn’t. Why? Do you know what a Draconian is? They are big, violent, technologically advanced, and reptilian. Yes these are the “Snake Gods” and “Lizard men” and demons spoken of in antiquity. They are called Draconians because they come here from the Draco star constellation. They have many bases on earth, all are underground, all in or near mountains or mountain ranges. I believe these hikers had the misfortune of being attacked by Draconians. This would explain the fear, they saw a 12 foot tall lizard man in their camp. This would explain the radiation poisoning, Draconains use nuclear power as a form of energy and as a weapon. That would also explain the round spots of discoloration on the skin, getting hit with a blast of radiation from a projectile weapon. This would explain how they had shattered insides and no real blunt force evidence on the outside as well as the premature aging, the best two examples of advanced technology being used. As crazy as this sounds it makes since when nothing else dose.You also have to wonder why whatever they saw was chasing them. They ran for 1.5 kilometers, something was RIGHT behind or above them the entire time. Why else would they KEEP running barefoot in knee deep snow and ice for 1.5 kilometers? Why if they were attacked by Draconians would they chase them? Why not kill them at the camp sight and save the time and effort with their advanced technology. They were killed on the edge of a forest, just before reaching some kind of refuge from something above them. Remember, only the hikers tracks were ever found. There isn’t a lot a 10 or 12 foot tall Draconian is scared of. It is reported that they can not experience the emotion of fear. Naturally anyway. They can however, extract the chemicals in the brain that causes fear and use it like a recreational drug. A short burst of fear, terror, helplessness, all the things they are incapable of feeling. This might explain why they killed just short of the forest.If i’m running in an open field from something above me, i’d feel at least a little better seeing this big lush thick, covered in snow and ice forest i might able to hide in. Thus if i reach the forest that level of fear might go down just a bit, but enough to make me take action. After all those who take drugs, want the best they can get, period. Given the brutality of this attack, the fact they were near and going to a mountain range, the radiation poisoning, the ripping out of a tongue, the fact the something big and nasty had to have made grown men run just as fast as the women, the mutilation, the fact that they were killed just before reaching some kind of refuge particularly from something above them, the fact that they are close to areas of Russia that have always had activity, all these things to me point not only to aliens but specifically to Draconians.They are the biggest, nastiest, most violent creatures capable of space travel in our milky way galaxy.David Icke is a great source of real information regarding Draconians, or anything else.

    And if she had swallowed her tongue, don’t you think they would have mentioned that in reports? Don’t you think they would have found it either near her body or in her stomach? So your thing about radiation poisoning is laughable at best. Only a few of the hikers had the radiation poisoning, not all 9, yet all 9 were killed in some fashion. If only we could see what they saw….

  28. One more thing.... Says:

    I also wanted to mention that your “RTG” theory is absolutely ludicrous. If the hikers had brought some sort of device they had found into their tent, don’t you think they would have found it? DUH! lol People are so brainwashed, which is exactly what they want to happen. All the conditioning of our minds to believe that anything involving aliens is not true. They want us to believe the things that you people believe. You’re all just puppets. lol

    Seriously, you mention in the blog that alien theories are laughable? LMFAO THEY’RE THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, how much more irrefutable evidence must one see to finally stop calling believers “crazy” and instead look at themselves as blinded and brainwashed individuals.

    To the people that find alien theorists “laughable”, well your arrogance is one day going to kill you. Who are we to believe that our planet, one of the youngest in our galaxy and in the entire known universe, is the only planet supporting life? Heck, it’s already a KNOWN fact that life DID exist on Mars. They just recently found a large forest with natural lakes so it’s safe to say that there’s probably life on it still today. So yeah, if you’re the one laughing at alien/ufo theorists, then you’ll be one of the first casualties when shit hits the fan, because your arrogance and ignorance has blinded you and led you to believe something totally unbelievable.

    Think about it, sheeple…..

  29. One more thing.... Says:

    Dude the official report says that they died of hypothermia. They said that because they had NO IDEA what happened. Why the HECK would 9 grown people RUN barefoot in below freezing temps for 1.5 kms if it was just a 14 pound RTG, and why wouldn’t they go through the front of their tent? Why slice through it?

    They were obviously scared…

  30. ed Says:

    I would not be so quick to dispense with the “alien” theory given your friend’s interesting and plausible theory. As you may know there are hundreds of “anomalous” structures on the moon which we have not been told about. And then there’s the human mutilations that nobody can explain especially the white sands incident with the sergeant which was ruled a murder at first. Everybody here is entitled to their opinions and we simply do not know the answer yet. My hunch is that we are being observed by EBT’s and that there are many different interdimensional beings out there that the government knows about. They probably feel that mass panic would happen if they told the public we were a biological experiment gone awry, and that we were manufactured by someone else to be expendable. After all we’ve proven ourselves to be the most barbaric animal on the planet and we would not put it past a person being responsible for this tradegy. So alien or person does it really matter. 9 people are dead and no one knows why.

  31. anonymous Says:

    you’re saying aliens is a laughable theory?? You are truly ignorant, please realize there are more stars in the universe then there are grains of sand on earth, and in a single handful of sand there is about a million grains of sand. If you truly think that its a laughable theory that aliens visit earth you need to realize what it is you’re thinking and realize humans are not as signifacant as u think we r. I’m sorry but your theory is quite laughable. An RTG LOL! Btw I’m only 16

  32. Different Says:

    Well after doing a little research on this subject I myself found the proof i needed to believe what i have always thought to be true. I dont know what it will take for our race as humans to get over our differences and realize there is more to life than this planet. Once every one gets some common sense and gets over there own fear of not being alone in the universe maybe we can advance as a civilization and open new doors with other races that would consider us now to be barbarians. The human race is good only at 1 thing, hurting each other. We try to learn from the past and yet it keeps repeating itself with bloodshed. No one cares for anyone who isn’t part of there circle. I read recently a group of translators say that the bible was grossly misinterpreted. I don’t believe this 100% yet but if u read on there site some of the translations they have already deciphered it would answer any of our questions we have on aliens/inter dimensional beings and god himself. These people died because they feared the unknown and this will be the outcome of anyone who doesn’t get with reality.

  33. dan Says:

    It had to be aliens/UFO. If the russian government was conducting raditation tests, this area would have been off limits to civilian personal. Look at area 51 in the states. There is no way that they would carry out secert tests an just let 9 hikers just walk right into death zone . The russian/military had no role in thes hikers deaths. Many other hikers saw bright orange spheres in the same area as where these unlucky hikers set up there tent. In the middle of the night a UFO hoovered very near the tent and gave off heat or radition .The hikers knew they were in mortal danger and ran for their lives. The bodies all had orange skin and gray hair from the raditation. They knew they had no time to gather pants, coats and boots. Get away fast before we are t
    oasted.They climbed the pine tree to see if the UFO was still near their tent on top of the mountain. When the UFO was gone 3 hikers desperetly tried to get back to the tent to retrieve warm clothing and didnt make it. They had been in the harsh elements over 2 hours and hypotheromia had set in . The other 4 had 2nd encounter with the UFO and this time it killed the hikers with the high pressure injuries and cut out the girls tongue. UFOs kill cattle in the states on cut out the animals tongue just like this case. The high pressure injuries targeted only the 9 skiers ;no other damage was inflicted in the surounding land, trees , or snow. If there was an accidental explosion there would have been damage to the surrounding area. Since there was no damage something targeted the last 4 skiers.

  34. Jojo Says:

    A very, very fascinating and tragic event. It has left us all with such a mystery. Some points that stand out to me:
    1. The fact that the tent was torn from the inside. What does this tell us? A lot. It was pitch dark. They were abruptly awoken out of their sleep. There was no time, not even seconds to spare to try to find the tent’s natural opening. There was complete panic. People were up on their feet in a flash and looking for the exit. The tent door fastenings were done up to keep the warm air in. There was no time to unzip or untie, instead just rip an opening from inside. But did they do that with their bare hands, or did someone have a knife? A couple had only enough time to put on one shoe while waiting for the others to exit. Then they all ran like hell, into freezing whether, in the middle of nowhere, when it was pitch dark, in their underwear or minimal clothing. The main conclusion from the ripped tent from the inside is: panic, rush, terror, adrenaline. No time to think or plan. They were awoken out of sleep by something terrifying. If it were sounds of men outside, they would have simply opened up the tent door in order to investigate. A ferocious animal could have caused this sort of panic. Or an alien light, sound, or heat blaring down from above. But if it was merely men, even angry men, they would more likely have hovered inside the tent instead of rushing out.
    2. On the other hand, the fact that it was the women’s tongue that was cut out, makes me feel like it may have been men. Locals or military. A sociopath soldier with a hatred of women, could have done that. But the fact that it was the woman who lost her tongue is telling. If it were aliens, why would they choose the woman only to do that to? What would be their motivation. But certainly it is plausible some backwards local gang of men, or violent soldiers could do something like that. I.e., it seems personal, perhaps sexually motivated.
    3. The fact that 5 meters of branches were off on the large tree they hovered under means something. It means it was light enough out for them to see at a distance. It means hours passed from the time they fled from the camp to the time they climbed the tree. If it was pitch dark out when they left (and it is pretty certain it was, as one account stated it appeared as if they were all blinded–try pitch darkness in the mountains instead), then the fact that they climbed a tree for a lookout implies it was light again, perhaps dawning, so they would climb a tree to try to figure out how to get back to their camp. And in fact, 3 went on their way back to the camped, and all died of hypothermia before reaching it. But my question is, what happened to the initial threat that caused them all to flee their camp? Why did they feel safe enough to return to the camp a few hours later once it got lighter? And why were none of them harmed AT the camp? If it were a gang of locals come upon them, why weren’t all the hikers murdered right there? We can deduce that the initial threat that woke up the sleeping hikers and caused them to flee their camp in their underwear, a couple hours later was gone. They had time to light a fire to try to keep them warm. And to climb a tree as a lookout. But it was too cold to stay there, so 3 decided to go back. They never would have made that trek back if the initial danger was still there. Could it be that the threat followed the 4 hikers who suffered violent deaths, so that the remaining 5 were safe? Did the attackers only take those 4? If it were radiation, this scenario would make no sense. If it were military, why only 4 taken and mutilated, if it were an alien encounter (the orange orbs), would those 3 hikers ever feel safe enough to try to go back to their camp?
    4. The hikers were found dead in 3 different areas. 3 were found frozen to death, all facing the direction of the camp, all a couple hundred meters apart from each other. 2 were found frozen to death next to a campfire under the lookout tree. They were in their underwear. The other 4 were found all in 1 group at the bottom of a ravine 4 meters (I believe) underneath snow. Only these last 4 apparently met with violent deaths. Crushed chests, a cracked head, and a missing tongue. It seems like the first 5 were waiting around, the threat was over, some headed back to camp, some hovered around the fire instead. Why didnt all 5 head back? Why did none of these 5 meet with violent deaths? It was stated that the 4 who died further into the forest, had clothing from some of the other hikers. Had the other hikers already died? So they took their clothing, then headed out? Where were they going? At one point, they must have all been hovering around that tree, discussing what to do. Perhaps there was a disagreement. Some wanted to head back to the camp as they felt it was their only hope of survival. Others were either too afraid to go back to the camp, or felt like they had a better chance by going deeper into the woods–maybe in search of other hikers that could help them. Why the 2 were left just sitting there dead at the campfire is baffling. Perhaps they were too sick from the hypothermia to move at all. They weren’t well enough to try the walk back to camp or the walk deeper into the woods. So the others waited until they died, then took their clothes and left.
    5. Now for a very far fetched possibility. No one has brought up the idea that foul play could have occurred. Not everyone who ventured out on the expedition died. 1 survived, because he was “too sick” after just one day of hiking to continue on. Love motivates people to kill. Most murders are done of passion in fact. Some psychopaths will arrange what appears to be a natural disaster, just in order to murder one individual without ever causing a modicum of suspicion. Just saying. Doubt this is the cause, it would be so far fetched, but once again I think about the gal with her tongue cut out…. the one he is hugging right before he left (there is a photo). He knew where they were, where they were heading, and that they were completely vulnerable.
    6. These guys were all university students in Soviet Russia. If this were some sort of military weapon experiment as some has suggested, what a golden opportunity for the military to try their weapon on a group of completely helpless individuals out in the middle of no where in treacherous conditions. (Also do not think this is the true scenario though).
    I hope one day more evidence will be released and more answers can be had!

  35. Ben Says:

    The dr. said the 2 of the hikers suffered internal injuries so traumatic that it was equivalent to being hit in a car crash, yet with no external tissue damage. Not many things can do that. How about a time traveling experiment gone wrong? One of the hikers was found with 2 watches on, each showing different times, about half an hour apart. Anyone ever hear of the Philadelphia experiment? It is possible since all were students who attended a technological Russian university, they were set up unknowingly for this time experiment. Perhaps the one who turned back was had some part in getting the whole excursion going and was in cahoots with the masterminds. The leader was skeptical about including the 37 year old. He wasn’t known to the leader as the others were, only recommended. He wasn’t a university student as all the others were. He was the one found with the 2 watches on. I find it strange that the trip was so well documented with photos, at that day and age, as if someone was told to catalog it every step of the way. Time travel experiment would explain the radiation on the clothes, the graying hair, and the inexplicable injuries–as if they were squeezed to death. It seems very odd even with the weather turning that bad, that these expert hikers would not go the extra 1 mile to camp in the forest for protection, but instead pitched their tents right in the open. Also, they were off course and not in the location they were intended to be (perhaps on purpose) when they died. Very interesting story. Read up on the Philadelphia experiment and see what you think.

  36. CeeDee Says:

    I think Ben’s Philadelphia experiment is the closest theory I’ve read here so far. It would explain allot of the details, whether it is alien or not, something did happen. This will be one of the greatest mystery I’ve crossed.

  37. Kevin Says:

    I recently saw this on Ancient Aliens & it interested me. I wonder what really happened? You all seem to have great theories or possible explanations to this mystery though I think that the beginning to this story could have been different than what everyone thinks it to be. I have no clue but maybe the tent wasn’t theirs? It may have been set up already and this was all a trap? Maybe they were on drugs and the internal injuries of some of the members we caused by that? We need to assume different beginnings to get more explanations and hopefully find one that explains all the details. Also, I actually do believe the aliens theory as well, after watching AA on History channel. People always ignore the alien/UFO theories since they seem so bizarre but they’re actually not. If you actually examine from the sources we have, aliens are just like us but more technologically advanced. I suppose their technology could be the solution, but why would they do this? I wish one of the members were still alive today!

  38. Duess Says:

    Anything is plausible I suppose, I’m thinking okay what if they settled down for the night and something from the sky came down upon them, others have said that they’ve seen orange orbs in the area… I’m thinking that this craft settled right above the camp exposing its underside to the tents below and in turn giving off radiation and heat. Because of what was happening one of the hikers could not stand the tremendous heat and used the knife to cut himself out. I’m thinking also of the internal injuries that were found and only assume that those hikers were picked up into the air and dropped including the woman who’s tongue was bit in half because of the tremendous strain upon her. Others scattered as to the forest but being basically radiation toast they perished with hypothermia.

  39. Kelley Says:

    OK, so these are the questions I have that no one seems to have answered definitively yet.

    It was -30, Celsius!! I don’t care what kind of heating or blankets they had in that tent, there is absolutely NO WAY they would have been just hanging around in their underwear! They would have been bundled up to the top of their heads! Ever heard of paradoxical undressing?

    The four hikers found with “mysterious” internal injuries were found under over 12 feet of snow, at the bottom of a ravine! Avalanche anyone? And the missing tongue? Scavengers? Orange skin… if these bodies were lying in the white, reflective snow under the sun for weeks, I’m sure they wouldn’t remain a healthly tan colour.

    Radiation and “orange glowing lights”… does anyone wonder why these ‘facts’ weren’t mentioned until years after the incident? I could even buy the radiation, camping lights in those days commonly contained thorium and were widely notorious for leaving radiation contamination wherever used.

    And to those who insist on Aliens… Aliens do exist, mathematically it’s almost certain. It’s not a question of whether they exist, it’s a question of can we ever contact them, or they contact us. Yes, technology evolves at great rates every year, but the laws of physics have never budged. We’ll never contact aliens, and they’ll never contact us. The distance is just too great. Deal with it!

  40. D Says:

    Just saw this story on Ancient Aliens on History Channel, and am amazed by this mystery. There’s a lot of good conjecture here. I wonder what the one hiker who had to leave early, had to say regarding the incident. I’m sure someone would have interviewed him regarding this, in the aftermath.

    I’d hazard a guess that one or more hikers indeed awoke to an immediate and immense threat, causing them to panic & cut their way out of the tent. Considering there were no tracks in the snow, other than the hiker’s themselves, the threat probably came from one of two (or both?) places: 1) Within; someone “psyched” themselves out (bad dream?), freaked, and cut the tent open to escape (thereby basically ruining the habitat protection of the whole group) 2) Above; something in the air above the tent. Military plane/helicopter, strange orange glowing orb, UFO, something. Whatever it may have been, it scared the crap out of one or more hikers, and they felt they’d die if they didn’t flee the tent immediately. I’d be interesting to see an aerial view of the tent area. See the vegetation & topographical layout, and paths they made as they fled the tent. You typically run away from danger, unless there’s a physical obstruction, or the object was directly over the tent.

    There could be many many logical reasons for why the different hikers were found in the three different locations. Like many have said KISS; the simple reason is the most likely one. The immediate threat subsided, and a few decided to try & retrieve clothing from the tent (do they give some of their clothing to those staying behind, knowing they’ll get new stuff from the tent?), and died enroute due to hypothermia. The others remained near a fire they’d started, to wait for the three to return with clothing. I guess we should also “map” the demographics(?) of who died where, see if the three going back to tent could have been stronger types more likely to make a riskier trip. Of the group at the fire, two are weak/sick & die, since the clothing never comes. The remaining four take clothing from the dead @ the fire site, and strike out for the relative safety of the forest, possibly?

    At this point, maybe the original unexplained threat returns, and thus the remaining four are dispatched, hence the unexplainable internal injuries. It’s the internal injuries that have me stumped. I’m sure some CSI-type could have an explaination, but in Russia circa 1959, we must KISS. Unless of course, some advanced technology is involved.

    I do believe that radiation, obviously, is involved. My guess it came from whatever threatened them from above, unless they had the bad luck to stumble upon some radioactive waste that was top secret to the Govm’t/military. Hmmm, 1959 Russia. Could there have been a previous military crash out there, long buried by the snows? A plane that had atomic cargo, or maybe a failed space launch of some sort. Not sure when CCCP first started rocket launches. If there’s a map of where things went lost/missing form the Soviet military/space program, maybe something was in that general vicinity.

    More info is needed. hopefully someone has the resources to cross-check some of this stuff. Maybe just maybe, they’ll sove this mystery for us. Or maybe, they’ll find that none of the obvious happened, and then we’re left with the possibility that non-Earth powers were in play.

    Things I’m left wondering: 1) what caused the internal injuries? 2) what caused the “aging” of the corpses? (unless it’s very easily related to readiation exposure, which I’m unsure of).

  41. Deeana Says:

    Effects of radiation exposure were well known by 1959. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki took place in August 1945. The American military occupied Japan after that for years. The U.S. military established and manned the hospitals that treated the radiation victims and everything was documented and photographed. Photos of victims can be found online.

    Radiation exposure is not known for turning hair gray. It is known for causing hair to fall out. The skin would be reddened, as in a burn. Because it is a thermal burn. The radiation kills blood cells and the body cannot produce new ones. Deaths from radiation exposure in Japan of 1945 came days to weeks to months after exposure, depending on how close to ground zero the victim was at the time of the blast.

  42. Brad Says:

    1. Running nearly a mile in bare clothing in -13 to -15 degrees F (seriously?)
    2. Sleeping even in tents in that weather in underwear is just dumb. No tent in 1959 could keep you warm enough to sleep in PJ’s at -13 degrees F
    3. The woman could have easily bitten her tongue off busting her ass. People do it every day around the world. Finding her severed tongue in the snow would have been needle in haystack scenario
    4. It is my understanding bruising is caused from massive blood flow to injured area that causes bruising. Massive internal trauma causing instant death (heart stopping) would mean there would be no bruising wouldn’t it?
    5. Gray hair and colored skin can easily be the exposure to the elements. As a matter of fact I have been sunburned by snow before due to its ability to reflect light. Couple that with rotting or death tissue that cannot recover properly from burns then you probably will get some interesting skin samples
    6. Radiation…. If this was a cover-up then that would be your reason for it.

  43. BeeJay Says:

    The fear these people felt, to leave their tent unclothed the way they did. Also, the rescue team later came out and told there were orange orbs, vibrating and pulsing..floating above them as they searched. There are orange orbs in N.C., USA. There are orange orbs in alot of places. Ancient Aliens, show based on facts and “experts” details ancient Indian tribes seeing same. “People from the sky” have been said to have came down and taught the natives, explains why there were batteries in Egypt. Had no other technology, but had batteries. Makes sense to me that it was alien to this planet, the upside down cauldrons in the area too..unbreakable, noone has ever been able to move them..they have been there for a very long time. They have “power” radiating out of them. I think people should have more of an open mind and realize that man has already discerned they were wrong about Neanderthal Man, there are cities 10′s of thousands of years older than their reign here, under the oceans. Been found and dated, the scientists of this planet can rant and rave, boast of their brains all they like. Truth is..they know NOTHING, obviously.

  44. Kelt Says:

    So, One More Thing, you believe that aliens.. the existence of which is currently nothing but pure speculation, supported by no empirical evidence… you believe that aliens is the “only possible explanation”?

    Well, it’s a bold statement, certainly.

    For my part I believe Yetis riding on Flying Unicorns is the “only possible explanation”.

  45. Someone whos not afraid to speak the truth Says:

    Really people….. How much research have you all done on this kind of subject, and not seen the similarities between cattle mutilation, HUMAN mutilation, and this incident. This is the work of the Greys, they don’t have souls in my opinion, are not from this earth, or dimension. Get used to it, and stop trying to act cool by not just admitting what did this.
    Soviet investigators determined only that “a compelling unknown force” had caused the deaths.
    Kelt… that was the stupidest comment that anyone could make on this abduction case, yeah your so cool… I love your use of advanced vocabulary to TRY to make others look stupid.
    People, do you REALLY think that humans on Earth are all that exists out there… Get used to it folks, we are not alone… no matter what the government wants you to think.

  46. vril1 Says:

    Yes It is the human mutilation phenomenon before it was recognized as so. One thing not mentioned is that several bodies had missing eyes too and strange holes in the skin. The only mysterie is, what, how and why causes this phenomenon?

  47. Area 51? Says:

    Interesting…!
    Have anyone here considered the possibility that maybe the Russian government owns UFOs, as well as the Area 51 in USA?

    If you like History Channel, Im pretty sure you have all watched UFO Hunters, and there is one chapter where this person describes how he has seen invisible vehicles moving around that place leaving nothing else than dust in its path… And also Bob Lazar claims they have 9 UFOs in there!

    So, it makes me wonder, what if this captured UFOs around the world are not only to be found in Area 51, but in Russia too?

    I can tell you that aliens are wise and smart enough and wouldnt travel this long to kill or colonize, aliens dont do that, aliens are humans like us, and, above all, they created us with their super advanced technology, if you want to know more, visit rael.org.

    So, concerning that Russia also has UFOs, these hikers were simply killed by these orange lights which are property of the Russian government, a little experiment to test the danger of these orange coloured machine lights.

  48. michael Says:

    it was santa…

  49. Evan Says:

    This theory is pretty much crap, for starters they would have found the RTG in the tent, also how would the government even know what happened to go cover it up? This isn’t very well thought out. If they realized they were getting radiation poisoning they would have at least grabbed more clothes to avoid certain death. You seriously think the government would keep an RTG in the middle of nowhere on a mountain with zero practical use? I won’t even bother addressing the holes in your theory regarding the strange physical damage to the bodies.

  50. John Says:

    Although I would love it to be something creepy and alien there is a simple an logical explination for this occurance. It is called an avalanche. The campers were awakened from a deep sleep by the sound of an avalanche. The fled the campsite in terror. (If you’ve ever been in one or even seen one you know what I mean. They ran to the safety of the tree line where 5 of them made it. The other 4 were swept away to be found months later buried in a ravine, downhill of the tree where the others sought safety behind. The avalanche commonly causes internal injuries without leaving bruising because it is a crushing force and not a blunt force, especially when it stops and instantly hardens to the consistency of concrete. The skin discolorations were caused by exposure. Nine days of freezing nights and warm days takes toll. The mutilations were caused by self inflicted wounds suffered during the escape or by those partially engulfed by the avalanche. The radiation…its Russia for god sake. They admitted that there was an abundance of metal debris strewn throughout the area. Probably some of it radioactive waste that the hikers came into contact with. The loss of one’s tongue can also be attributed to the trauma of being caught in an avalanche. Once bitten through it was probably spit out in an attempt to clear her airway. So there is my hypothesis. Take it or leave it…it does make sense. (Former river guide and winter camping instructor.)

  51. John Says:

    Oh, by the way, the tracks that were found started at the campsite but only lasted for a few hundred yards. There were no tracks from that point on until they found the first bodies. This is also consistant with an avalanche which swept their tracks (and 4 of the hikers) away. (Thanks for listening).

  52. John Says:

    More infomation. I just saw some photos and learned that they camped below a ridgeline because they were caught in a blizzard. The perfect place and the perfect conditions for an avalanche. It probably just missed their camp but they panicked in the dark and fled the sound of it coming. If they had stayed (hindsight) this probably would have never been a story at all.

  53. Jim Says:

    Well, lots of ideas presented. I didn’t read all the posts so if I duplicate one I will apologize in advance. Lets assume that the story is true, for the most part. If we present it with that in mind, then doesn’t it seem like they were experimented on? Let me elaborate… How many days passed till they located them (they mention 4 days into the trek and 10 days pass due for their arrival), but no clear time period of how long before they were discovered. Many/most (correct me here if I’m wrong) of the 9 had dissimilar trauma and some with similar trauma (radiation, orange skin, white hair, missing tongue, etc.). Yet if they froze to death, wouldn’t the bodies be in pretty good condition (minus the trauma spoken of)? I mean, I did see this on Ancient Aliens also and saw the pictures. These bodies were in very poor condition. There sockets seemed devoid of tissue. Also the skin on them (some of them/one of them, not sure…) appeared in decay (drawn tight, teeth showing through decayed or shriveled lips, hair loss), so if they froze to death (fairly quickly) wouldn’t they show much less decay (or no decay)? I’m assuming, since they did not mention anything about tracks in the snow, (except the hikers, of course), at or near the tent and, at or near the bodes, some 1.5 kilometers away, that there weren’t any. So we can also assume that predators (native predators), did not cause any of the trauma. Then it just seems like (this is just an hypothesis), that they were so terrified at something that had made its way into the tent and blocked the exit, that they decided to cut their way out. But to leave, so terrified, that you would not even put on your shoes (considering the environment they were in), is astounding to me. I find it hard to believe that they ran that far with these injuries (in fact I don’t believe they could have, at least some of them). So this could suggest they made it to the edge of the woods, and that is were “something” happened. To reiterate what I said towards the beginning, doesn’t it seem like they may have been experimented on? Though they were able to escape the tent (they did not say how many tracks there were leading away from the tent, so I am assuming all of them made it out), made it as far as they did and then were detained by what ever, experimented on, and then dumped back where they were taken from. It just seems unusual, in and of itself, that they sustained dissimilar trauma in some cases. Why not conduct tests on the indigenous “higher” life forms to ascertain and collect data on types of tissue destruction. Why not collect data concerning the types and seriousness of certain traumas that lead to death? Our scientists do it to animals in the name of helping humans. As for the orange orbs… if you see any, you probably shouldn’t approach them.

  54. Jim Says:

    As I have read more about this incident (not all the bodies were together, the tracks ended before the location of the bodies) , I find the avalanche theory very plausible. It doesn’t answer all my questions I have but does answer many. It doesn’t clearly answer the radiation, the white hair, or the orange skin etc questions, but then we are relying on information that comes out of Russia from 1959. I do wonder why they were buried in zinc coffins though… Is that typical in that part of the world?

  55. Jim Says:

    Oops sorry… gray hair.

  56. faberman Says:

    There were no traces of an avalanche. If you go to the first link at the top of the page, you will find this is included in the report. Good try though John.

  57. osymandias Says:

    Well it is highly possible that they were killed by what you want to call aliens. I am sure that aliens exists and I have personally seen ufo (once) myself. However, since I’m not able to provide evidence so you need not believe me if you don’t want.

  58. Joe Says:

    Crazy Russian springbreak orgy gone wrong. That explains sleeping butt-naked. They heard an avalanche coming, cut the tent, ran out half naked and four were taken by the avalanche with that one chick losing her tongue and others suffering internal injuries. Five made it to the tree-line and climbed a tree to escape avalanche. Once that passed they got a fire going, two died by the fire and three left to get clothes (the two burned fell into the fire after freezing) and died. As for radiation w/o total hairloss take into account they are Russian University students and likely were exposed to mild radiation. Solar radiation from the sun intensified by the snow’s reflection caused orange skin (tape colored construction paper on a window and check it after a week) and “premature aging”. Case closed… have a great day people.

  59. locklear Says:

    There were pictures and several of the bodies looked like there eyes were burned out of there skulls and the skin looked vaporised.. it was truly disturbing! Also civilians in the area also reported seeing red orbs hovering in the sky the very nite the hikers were killed. U dont need to be an expert in anything to see from the pictures and by the autopsy report that these poor people died by an unknown type of device or weapon not known to man kind at this time! Either they stumbled onto some top secret area and died by the hands of an unknown organization using technology we dont know exist or it was an extraterrestrial encounter with a probe of some kind or actual contact with alien life. To those of you who dont think they could cover up the tracks they could have used helicopters and a device to lay some snow down over what ever tracks were made.. If the U.S. government is capable of killing a president and orcastrating 911.. then surely the Russian gov could cover this up but highly unlikely! It sounds most plausible that the hikers encountered some thing out of this world! I Wish the government would stop hiding the truth but there not sure themselves how to deal with this problem and they dont want to look inapt in the eyes of the people so they dismiss it as anomalies or other ridiculous lies..

  60. Joe Says:

    I saw no mention in this new theory of what melted the snow surrounding their dead bodies.The video footage and pictures i saw showed that the snow had melted and frozen again into a huge ice puddle on the ground. Like some extreme heat had surrounded them where they had died.
    Maybe they lit matches to keep warm and melted puddles aroung themselves as they waited to die?
    :P

  61. Bdub Says:

    Seeing all these comments really reminds me of a quote I once heard. I know its a little off topic.
    “Does the madman know he is mad? Or are the madmen those who insist on convincing him of his unreason in order to safeguard their own idea of reality?”
    A few of the closed-minded people will not understand this quote…. obviously.

  62. thhak Says:

    this story creeps the shit out of me. i would love to believe your theory but… they where mutilated. they where burned, beaten and suffered from radiation poison. also, they ran 1 1/12 kilometers bear foot in near sub zero temperatures and there tents where cut open from the inside……. so something scared them so badly that they risked death from hypotherimia to escape something. this incident was so suprising and unexplainable the soviet union refused to realse most of it. even tho their known for doing things like this…. i wish i could believe it but it doesnt add up. if its snowing on top of a mountain how could they start a fire burn themselves get radiation poisoning and get beaten in an inhabitable place.

  63. Greg Says:

    I agree with the engineer. How can we be so incredibly egotistical to believe we are the only form of life in space. Space is infinite, Time is infinite. You can travel at a billion times the speed of light for 100 years and still be in space looking at stars. Juts different ones. Anyone with a basic undertstanding of statistics will tell you that the probability of life existing on another planet is 1. i.e. a certaintity. People love to dispel this stuff, not because it’s untrue but because it helps them sleep at night. Not good to think you are no longer at the top of the food chain. Wasn’t so long the relatives of the same idiots who try to dispel this stuff thought the earth was flat and the sun relovolved artound us.
    That doesn’t mean I believe this story. The radiation part concerns me. Radiation is traceable i.e. it’s failry simple to detect the source type. Highly unlikely aliens are using u235! This sounds more like a type of mini neutron bomb explosion. Explains the radiation, internal injuries but no external and people bite their tongues off from pain.

  64. John Says:

    As a ex-Green Beret who served in US Army Special Forces for 15+ years, this very much reads to me like the former old guard Soviet government testing something during the nuclear arms race. Sorry to disappoint all of the UFO buffs and the like. But yes, you can travel for quite a time, depending on how good your health is with radiation poising. Also, the missing tongue can easily be explained by the woman herself having bitten it off due to the concussion wave a blast would put off. That also very easily explain those found with skull fractions and broken ribs. Injuries also very easily caused by the concussion wave of a big blast. Maybe the Soviet government new these kids were in the area? Maybe they didn’t? But you can believe they would’ve went to great lengths to cover up as much as possible during that era, and it’s not hard to believe at all that their government would’ve used the “a compelling unknown force” theory to sweep it all under the rug. But that’s just one ex-Green Beret’s theory. Who’s been exposed to a lot of top secret shit during his time in our military.

  65. Nick Says:

    I really find this theory to be the most reasonable I feel that the first 5 died of most natural causes hypothermia, and so forth but the 4 in the ravine really strike me, as to think that in their possible wanders throughout leaving the tent after whatever had caused them to leave in such a hurry, they came across a patrol of Russian soldiers that had held them captive for period of time and maybe they had been interrogated harshly, the Soviet Union is pretty scary when it comes to that they could have been smashed by machinery or any type of object using air compression ect.., the tongue could have been removed during interrogation. But I think these 4 bodies were dumped after some time by some one, I am no forensic expert I am uncertain if being hit by heavy machinery would cause brusing beyond belief but I would believe that taking a high fall would cause the same brusing if it had force to break bones, like it said it had the impact of a car crash.

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  67. H. Oxoa Says:

    just some additional information about THE woman with the cut off tongue, she was NOT the only woman of the group. Instead the group consisted of 6 women and only 3 men. Only one person got her togue cut off, 1 out of the 6 woman.

  68. Ryan Says:

    Here is what happened. The crew of the space vessel Event Horizon in the year 2040 leaped into another dimension with their black hole drive and found out that the dimension was pure chaos, “Hell”. The crew all got cursed and started killing and mutilating each other until somebody kicked the black hole device back on and ended up going back to this universe except the year 3097 and met up with the Elysium at the bottom of the ocean on the planet Tanis. A couple members of the crew of the Event Horizon “bloodied and battered” took a craft to the surface and got inside the Elysium and found Dennis Quaid, Antje Trau, Norman Reedus, Cung Lee and Ben Foster. They also brought a couple of them mutated ugly monsters with them back to the Event Horizon. Well they turned the black hole device back on and ended up back around Earth at the year 1959 and released those monsters, some of the cursed crew, and the few people who had Pandorum in that same spot where the hikers were. There were 3 left on the Event Horizon and took off again but back to the dimension of pure Hell and they all ended up mutulating, torturing, dismembering and raping each other till they all died. The Event Horizon’s computer sent it back to this dimension in the year 2047 when Sam Neil and Lawrence Fishbournes crew found it. And they all died from trauma as well because it was so scary. But what happened to the hikers. They were eatin alive by the monsters who had Pandorum and some of the cursed crew of the Event Horizon. To bad Sigourney Weaver or Isaac Clark wasnt there to stop this from happening. I also heard the Borg and George W. Bush was involved with this as well. But anyway, IT WAS BUSH’s FAULT.

  69. ANC Says:

    There is a lot of conjecture regarding what radiation will or will not do. Just go to legitimate research to find out what kinds will actually do what damage. Personally, I thought George Mallory looked much better after being above 8000m on Mount Everest for over 70 years. Compare the photos and use your own judgement. I worked in operating rooms for twenty five years and saw many things. The coroner for some unexplainable reason did not say how Ludmila’s tongue was removed. Maybe he was told to do this or maybe he was horrified and was trying to not start a panic. I lived in Alaska for many years. They teach anyone who wants to learn about avalanches. I would believe it was Aliens before I would believe it was an Avalanche. Sorry Mr. Green Beret. There are photos which show unmoved ski/pole from search party perspective, not to mention both ends of tent still attached and in up position. These were experienced backcountry skiers, not to mention educated engineers. they knew what an avalanche sounded like in different terrain. We must remember that they were mostly from Sverdlovsk Oblast, knowing the Urals intimately.
    They had to get a backcountry/tourist permit in large town between Sverdlovsk/Ekatarinburg. Ofcourse the powers that be knew wherre they were. MORE IMPORTANTLY: the powers that be knew Dyatlov’s expected return and possible delay by a few days, as was told to Yuri Yudin before hiis retreat due to back injury pain.
    I believe Yuri Yudin was completely innocent. It was Yuri Yudin who questioned documents that were shown to him regarding the search, these documents were dated 02/16/1959. Yuri Yudin could not understand this date because, officially, search was begun on 02/20/1959 and only at the urging of concerned family and friends.
    The Ural State if not the Russian Government had known about reports of Orange Orbs before the return the Dyatlov group. Anyone find this interesting? I believe they were on the scene prior to the official search party but I do not believe they had any cause of the disaster.

    I lived in Alaska and I have backpacked in winter conditions. The largest land animal to worry about would be a bear, Dyatlov had this kind of experience, bears hibernate in winter, in the Urals. I have never heard of a bear finding a hibernation den on an exposed mountainside of a slowly sloping angle (see photos). I slept in my own tent in snow in little Yosemite Valley behind Half Dome while I could hear bears rip apart some idiots backpacks (stupidly left bubble gum and toothpaste in them). No one left their tents. Scary? Absolutely! But no one left their tent, not even the idiots.

    To be exposed in that cold is unthinkable. I can tell you that it is easier to use an outhouse at -35F that at Zero degrees. You can still feel at Zero.

    There are so many angles and back stories and decent web sites on this incident that I can now disregard some arguments by the second sentence. Any avalanche theories are out, ruled out by the Russian Officials even at the time of the search. Please loose that one.

    You can not feel for these victims unless you put yourself into their place. Get the facts straight, know who was where, what happened to them and so on. The party members backgrounds are most important. K Zolo is he wild card. He survived a 97% death rate in his age group during the war. He had to have some inherent skills to accomplish this. If you were him, what skills would you have gained by being part of the surviving 3%? Alliances, allegiances, debts?

    The “Evening Otorten” quotes regarding the subject of snowmen existing? Was it really all in fun? Or did someone in the group see something odd and upon relating it to the group was made fun of in the makeshift news journal.

    The original search party official Ivanov, who is now dead, stuck by his belief that the Orange Orbs were connected to the Dyatlov Pass Incident. Interesting, especially at that time and later for a government official to commit to such a surprising conclusion. This was an educated and intellegent man.

    I have read the more offical account of the footprints leaving that tent, all in the same direction but not all together. The searchers described how they all came together lower down the hill before the later snows covered those tracks. I beleive by this pattern that they initially were in a fight or flight status but were herded by someone or something, so that they would be together in a grouping. There were two flashlights, one left tied to tent and one found by treeline in the on position but burned put battery. I have read two accounts where flashlight found away from any bodies and one where it was found near burnt out fire, this would be good to find out thge truth.

    Enough for tonight because this freaks me out. I forgot to mention that most, if not all, the group had cheated death prior to this trip. Viper bites, GSW, concentration camp birth, war, nuclear accident. It kind of sounds like a cheap Hollywood movie.

    Bonne Nuit

  70. ANC Says:

    I’m back!
    OK about the RTGs: I have read that out there on the fringe, there are those who can quantify through conjecture that spent energy from decay heat could possibly be an ordered intellegence. What if, I am going out there on a limb, what if remnents of decay heat could mutate into an organized intelligence? A mean one at that?

  71. ANC Says:

    Things to ponder:

    1) The police incident in Ivdel? There was a second encounter with the police involving the accusation of a pick-pocket event?

    2) Photos of the initial/origianl search party, it does not take a genius to figure out who are the experts in frozen Siberian wilderness. Look who are wearing the Mukluks! A dead give-away.

    3) Second Severniy/41st Settlement: Illegal prison songs??? To know and be able to sing these lyrics, one must have personal knowledge or. experience with such things. Is there a connection.

    Sometimes evil need not be a thief just a killer!

    Only four people in my life have ever made every hair on my body stand up. The first was a known schizophrenic. The second dated a friend of mine, later to be realized as a sociopath. The third was a man on a motorcycle who asked me to take his photograph at the Arctic Circle. The fourth and spookiest, because my hair continued to stand up straight was a DEA agent who I met under social circumstances, thank gosh, only once. I was in the presence of pure mayhem.

    The Dyatlov Pass skiers thought enough of these facts to enter it into the official diary.

    Did the Russian authorities ever investigate the above and, if so, what conclusions did they come by? Does anyone know, for sure?

  72. lai Says:

    is it possible that the stove they kept inside the tent that was made by Dyatlov himself had something to do with the initial reason they left the tent? also there was some questionable characters amongst the victims themselves- the autopsy results did show that their could have been some conflict between at least 2 of the victims, the diary entries that were left did shed some light on the conflicts within the group, as to why it was covered up by the military?, perhaps they knew something they shouldnt have? or perhaps they were led there to do something for the military?and thats why they were there in the first place??? it seems at least 2 of the victims had links with secret organisations and at least one of the victims had experience with radiationbeing exposed and having the job of cleaning up in Chelyabinsk 40- the victims past experiences explain alot i believe as to what happened.

  73. ANC Says:

    Lai,
    Interesting, I always thought it was strange that on the day of the incident that they would start out late by building a cache while there was already something there to store their food on and then only travelled 2.5 miles up the face Kholat Syakhl. Once I saw the satellite images I knew they did not find themselves on that face by accident. Perhaps reason is in missing diary, etc. As experienced as they all were they had to have known this would put them on the eastern mountain face instead of a secure place down near some trees down in a valley. Could this delay to start the day be intentional? Good Question, thanks lai. I have found a good map of area, go to Antipodr, enter “Syakhl Russia” and then “Otorten Russia” push hybrid button and it gives you very good image of both plus smaller Mountain 880. Why would they have ran Northeast instead of Southeast? The tent was found on the eastern Kholat Syakhl face with end opening slightly towards the southwest, more south than west.

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  75. y788lhjk1 Says:

    Mayby one of them goes nuts and cuts the womens thongue off other guys wake up on it ra out the crazy guy troughs explosive on them the four die on the explosive those who made it out try to clim in the tree BECAUSE there ways view from the trees to the camp and they tryed to look if the killer is still there.

  76. ANC Says:

    Ava, Thank you, what do you think happned?

    Last poster: Ludmila’s tongue injury/missing has already been established to have occured for very good reasons down by the ice cache where the last four skiers were horrifically murdered. It has been discussed that maybe an animal ate her tongue afterwards. We may never know but I doubt that this happned this way. I grerw up in a multicultural areas with familes from all over the world. If I was a scavenging animal, bear, mountain lion etc., I would not choose to eat a human tongue. When I saw how cow tongue needed to be cooked for hours to soften enought for eating, I rulled this out. Any animal that could eat a tongue could more easily tear clothes and eat the more special meats of a human body. Bears do not eat tongues, they almost always “gut” people first. At least when I lived in Alaska this is what you always heard or read. Maybe Siberian bears have more desire for the delicate meats??? No Dyatlov group member was gutted. Please forgive me for this vocabulary but I am trying to get my point across to you.
    These injuries are not consistent with anything we know, that fits those involved with their surroundings or circumstances.

  77. pegazpegasus Says:

    my comments…..
    This story reminded me a case of some lost hikers in a mountain in russia that found a warm container where all the snow on it and around it was melting on contact….They felt asleep near it ….one didnt wake up …2 others (not sure) woke up and they were throwing up and their hair was falling on contact … collapsed and died.
    I dont believe in the Aliens explanation simply because i dont think that if u capable of crossing the milky way,you are superior of such atrocities,only man is, as far as i know.
    I dont believe in the cover up by military because they didnt cover up….they could kill whom they want with no-one or anything left.
    I believe the murder/murderers are amongst the dead,i guessing that there was foul play,premeditation,some one decided that was going to be a one way trip for all of them.
    Lets imagine,one of them jealous and hurt,got hold of some radio-active type of material (maybe liquid form or solid)
    The group could have been poisoned or exposed.At some point during the night,the murderer explain his plot,telling them grenade at hand,that they only have 4 to 5 hours to live.
    Panicked,they tear the tent apart and run to the forest.
    They know its too cold to stay there,they start to make a fire,4 decide to make a move to get him by surprise or to get some clothes and/or supplies.
    The killer see them, blast them ,throwing a grenade….and mutilate them at the horror of the others then kill himself.
    I know….sounds like a bad story from a 4th grader
    I did tried to explain the lack of footprints,also the ONE WAY ONLY! footprints to the woods..
    The radiation aging,the shattered ribs without external injuries,even if grenades produce burn (they could be interpreted as frost bit…mmm 1950′s
    The missing of the tongue?…mutilation ,yes indeed….missing? i might challenge the investigation crew….they could have miss it.Snow everywhere.
    we cant be sure it was missing,we didnt find it !!
    well….

  78. ANC Says:

    p,

    Have you ever seen injuries from explosive devices. Like a right thumb shredded, melted and imbedded into a left inner thigh? Grenades will not cause flail chests without pronounced external burns and injuries. This was proven not to have occured in these cases. The medical examiner excluded this type of injury. The injuries so frightened the search pilots that some refused to have the bodies flown in their planes. The was Soviet Russia after WW2, these people had intimate knowledge of battlefield wounds, which these injuries were not.

    Remember: “An Unknown Compelling Force” and start from there down your path.

  79. rhanda Says:

    Did anyone fail to mention that one of the Russian detectives/police who was helping with the case with the killed hikers was taken off the case basically because he was very disgusted with the incident and also because he had a loose tongue. The Soviets were worried he was going to leek something out that the public shouldn’t know. For all we know the Russians were possibly testing a new weapon of war and what better way to do it with 9 unexpecting hikers in the middle of no where so people couldnt finnd out. And I saw a comment where someone put that “they were dumb college kids hiking in dangerous elements not fimiliar with survival instincts”…….well I thought they were scientists going up there to do a study. Maybe those scientists knew something thaat the soviet government didnt want them to know and they had to eliminate the problem. Don’t get me wrong I believe in UFO’s too, but Im hoping that if we are not alone, our visitors from other galaxies cant be that cruel of a species. It kinda scares me to know if it was an alien force that did that to those hikers, then God be with us. But like the Russians said, the many times they’ve been visited by aliens, that was the only time they were hostile. Some people think if it was aliens, they were trying to protect something on that mountain. And another thing that gets me is they said the tents where cut open with a knife/sharp object? from the inside, well how would it be possible that each one of them hikers thought to break thru the tent with their knives, why didnt one of them go out the zipper door? It was at night, how could all of them find their knife in the dark in time? Unless they were already scared when they got into their tents and had their knife on hand literally in their hand. From the pictures it looked like 4 tents in the snow. I just cant believe no one went out the front door. Well we know our government hides things too so Im sure Russia has 10 times more skeletons in the closet then America does.

  80. ANC Says:

    rhanda,
    Some had degrees or advanced degrees most were students in the physical sciences.
    Sound wave weapon, there would have been dead animal carcases all over the place besides dead humans.
    If there had been weapons used the Russians would have cleaned up their mess.
    I have been reading that some believers actually believe God ‘s own fallen angels may be have been up to no good. Y-tube: Dr Patrick Heron, he has many interviews which are interesting to say the least. Or, if you will, David Paulides’ book Missing 411 The Western States or Missing 411 The Eastern States.
    Two of the students were known to have knives on this trip. The tent had many odd cuts from within. A very smart blogger suggested that some of these initial cuts were the smaller linear, horizontal cuts high on the tent, maybe to LOOK OUT of the tent to keep watch over the mountainside as much as possible in the dark. Look Out cut patterns before the final slash and dash long vertical cuts where the group left the tent from. The tent had no zippers in those days, the end was tied closed with multiple canvas straps for the night. Kind of like a straight jacket. Only one tent, please review all photos, One of the searchers actually helped make the tent back in Sverdlovsk. One tent.
    Not sure why you suggest Russia or USA can under do or over do each other when it comes to secrecy. Actually, Russia has admitted and let their pilots admit to the fact that there are UFO’s. USA has not, so far but it is coming.

  81. Art Says:

    I would like to add some insight to help you with your search for the truth. I will start with some facts and then move on to my theory.

    1. If a body is left on the surface with little clothing in sub-zero temperatures and exposed to the environment, one, the body becomes frostbitten (turns black).
    2. Eyes collapse and cave in due to deflation from loss of blood pressure, and
    3. If exposed to warmer (day) temperatures alternatively with frozen nights, the bodies remain rather preserved but in a shriveled, mummified state.
    4. Elevation reduces atmospheric UV protection so the skin becomes “tanned” to the point where it looks orangeish, not so much red (due to active inflamation of a living person).
    5. Also UV rays have the tendency to “bleach” hair, lower UV protection from the higher elevation could accelerate the process. Also cause the “aged” appearance.
    6. The radiation found was superficial and in very low dosages (not extremely high), probably from the leaders coat, since they worked as engineers in a lab. Also general fallout from nuclear testing frequently ends up in mountain ranges (Mt. Lassen in California has red snow from fallout at it’s summit, still slightly radioactive)

    Here are some notes:

    1. The individuals with the crushed ribs and no bruising were the ones found in the shallow ravine covered by 12ft of snow. Heavy snow (packed, melting, icy) can cause crushing injuries. If the individual is dead, and partially frozen, no bruising can happen since there is no blood pressure to create inflamation of the tissues.
    2. Orange lights could be from afterburners belonging to the prototype MIG-21s they had during that time (more on that later), probably related to the secrecy surrounding it.
    3. The girl found with the missing tongue was also found with her mouth wide open and head back. Bacteria and microorganisms of the mouth are abundant, when given proper aerobic respiration and dead tissue they go to work quickly. A tongue and surrounding tissues can quickly dissolved in just around two weeks.

    Here is my theory. I tried to keep it as simple as possible:

    They were suddenly woken at night by a deafening rumble, disoriented and thinking they were about to be crushed by an avalanche, they make a run for the treeline. The roar they hear is that of a MIG-21 passing overhead. If you live near an air force or naval air base you know what I mean.

    Due to the windy, low light, low visibility conditions they ran while the roaring sound continued thinking the avalanche was right behind them still.

    Once they reached the treeline, a member climbed a pine tree and retrieved lower branches (pine trees usually have dying lower branches that are fairly dry) to make a fire. At some point he falls and received a non-fatal but serious head fracture, the cold temperatures served as the natural aspirin though he probably had a concussion.

    The leader and the guy who busted his head decide to make a run back to camp for supplies. They are killed by hypothermia in the process.

    Two in the camp who were waiting and under-clothed died from hypothermia. A girl and a guy strip the dead of their clothes to make themselves warmer. They decide to hoof it back to the lower camp station. Exhaustion and freezing temperatures make them weak. They then fall into a ravine and into deep snow. They are trapped and die. Over the course of 10 days the bodies begin to sink further into the ravine and as snow piles on them they receive their crushing injuries. Much like the crushing injuries of people and camels trapped in quicksand once extracted from the bottom.

    That is the most reasonable explanation I could think of without seeking the paranormal. Do with the theory as you wish, pick it apart, maybe you can extract a better theory yourselves using some of those observations.

  82. ANC Says:

    Art,
    Believe me, your opinions were very much like mine were several years ago. When you start talking with people who have studied this subject for years, you really start to learn more and weed out the chaff. The only beef I have is about the darker hair turning white in that environment at that altitude. I do not buy it within 30 to 120 days. Possibly this could occur in Death Valley over a summer but not in the Urals over four months. I have seen too much to believe this could happen. The only thing I know of that could turn hair this white (nee: photos) would be a laser of some kind. I like where you have begun though and I think you would be a good candidate to go deeper because of the intelligent way you have tackled the facts.

  83. evie Says:

    Joe is the only one that sounds absolutey right it was an avalanche we all just have boring as lives and nothing interesting going on so we make up all these theories to entertain our dull minds.

    Avalanche

    Bam!

  84. Art Says:

    ANC,

    You made some excellent points as well and you keep a very objective and open mind. I haven’t heard much else from the little research that I did find over the course of one day. I have noticed that there are some assumptions that tend to skew the story into different and often conflicting directions, such as the actual radiation levels, and the burned skin condition.

    I know the hair whitening is a little far fetched, I just attributed it to the higher elevations and lower UV protection. Maybe there is a study out there that can explain conditions where dark hair can become whitened. I will start my search there and maybe that can lead to possible considerations that can coincide with other facts about what is known at the time. I will try and combine that with the orange skin phenomenon, I think they two conditions are one and the same. I’ll pop in again once I find something useful. Thanks again Bonne.

    Art

  85. mastip.blogspot.com Says:

    It is the last day of 2012 . Think again .The Russians were not as smart as US government to cover up THINGS like ROSWELL . In 1959 Russians hardly managed to build nuclear weapon.

    In general , it seems to be something very odd. Those young were no ordinary people to be frightened so easily. It could have been something far imaginable.

    Extraterrestrial

    mastip.blogspot.com

  86. leo Says:

    The obvious answer to me is that one of the males went beserk and said he had a gun or had a gun so everyone freaked out and ran. After 5 minutes some tried to return to the tent as they had no other option and the others fell into a ravine.

  87. ANC Says:

    evie,,

    You dishonor the memory of the nine skiers in the Dyatlov Pass incident. The probability of an avalanche occurring was nil. It was officially ruled out by the lead inspector and all searchers upon first finding the scenes of the tent. Any intelligent person who spends any amount of time looking at the photos taken by searchers could easily see why an avalanche was ruled put completely at the time. This group would not be so easily frightended by the sound of a MIG in the Urals, either, as suggested by a friend. Most of them were students in the sciences and well entrenched in the Soviet manufacturing of military equipment made during the cold war, especially in Sverdlovsk/Ekaterineberg. These were smart people and we need to give them their respect due. I do not think that the Russians were any more or less intelligent than the Americans in 1959, they worked and lived hard for the love of their families also.

  88. TJ Says:

    I like everyones explanations and attempts at possible human instances causing the whole ordeal. All I can say is looking back to science- the easiest, most simple and plausible answer is usually the right one. But there isnt one.

  89. Rook Says:

    I have to disagree with any notion that it was human error. First off experienced climbers know the difference between sounds of avalanche and the feel of the earth vibrating under you as tons of snow cascade down a mountain at break neck speeds. Even small ones.Besides picture show no Snow damage.
    Second in -30 below, why the (F) would you ever have your socks off EVER!!! Unless its to change them(them being wet), other then that theirs no other reason to have them off period. And does anyone, including that green beret know what it takes to run bare footed in -30 for little over a mile . I was a world class athlete for years, and I have done a ton of brainless things that should have killed me, but I certainly never would have run from my base camp in the dark of night barefoot. That’s just plain stupid, I could possibly understand one of them doing it. But all of them. No the fear of god was coursing through their veins. And when they reached the forest line they even had their wits about them long enough to climb trees for dead branches to start a fire. NO one stands around for hours after a 30 second event before they decide to risk going back to base camp, No they were afraid of something, but they also knew they had to get their gear or they were dead. Remember these weren’t some soft as American college kids with cell phones and wiki BS, these people were hard, intelligent, and stubborn. They were survivors and they had to rely on their wits, and instinct. Besides an experienced climber would rather just die in his tent from an avalanche then suffer in -30 below without gear. Being knocked out and dying blissfully is a hell of a better way to go then running around half naked outside after the fact knowing your going to die. Arm chair researchers never seem to understand high risk mind sets. (Always choose the lease painful way to die if given the option).
    I do agree that hypothermia played a role in their deaths at the end, but it was not the cause. With the evidence laid forth and taking it for face value, I truly suspect whatever (being) killed them was using some type of microwave device to stir them up and make them run by cooking them inside their tent. And it was selective. But before I go into how I see this, first let me state that just because someone can travel the stars does not make them some how less violent. Just because I am intelligent does not mean I wouldn’t shoot a tiger (Just for example) just for the thrill. Especially if you look down on another species as lesser (like cattle). I agree that the being whom invented star travel probably is not a killer, but that doesn’t stop a murder from buying a car either. How many people here can open the hood of their car and describe how everything works? Or even better the Saturn V Rocket.
    I do not believe foul play happened here either, the evidence points to panic and fear not attack, rational explanations do not make sense in either case with experienced people, and I am pretty sure if the Russians wanted to cover this up. Nobody would have been found. Case close they just disappeared. Though I do believe some of the internal injuries can be accounted for by compacted snow around a body. The skin is a great organ, but bones will pop and crack with pressure long before the skin ever ruptures. The missing tongue maybe was a trophy (I don’t know, just a guess) Then again it could just be a case of (S) happens. Either they died horrible deaths.
    So now onto what I think happened…
    During the night something was heating them up during their sleep before it got to hot. They begun to disrobe themselves unknowingly half awake.(their socks, and maybe some of their clothes). Then when the heat got real intense they woke up in a sweaty panic, fleeing the tent in haste freaked out by the heat. Scared out of their minds. Imagine waking up and your insides are burning up. Your not going to spend a minute to two untying the canvas to run out of the ten, I would just cut open the tent, cold air might have helped and it seems some of them had enough fore thought to grab a flash light and don their shoes. Whatever caused them to burst from the tent evidently effected some of the people to lesser degrees, or they were just that stubborn and ignored the pain, either case a split second decision, and a good one. Cause they were fleeing this intense heat for the forest the flash light probably help keep them together. Just a note (1 mile on even terrain with clothes on at 65 Degrees f at sea level is probably gonna take a fit person 6 to 7 minutes. Now add snow, -30 under dressed, darkness, high elevation and being chased. The air would literally burn your lungs and I bet few if any could do that without proper training unless under duress. The amount of calories needed to fuel a run without clothes would have devastating consequences on your energy system. NO one stands around for hours after a 30 second event before they decide to risk going back to base camp, No they were afraid of something, but they also knew they had to get their gear or they were dead. Because why not go back as a group and get your gear.
    A. certain weaker members of the party probably had frost bite, and could not risk the trip.
    B. Some of them might have been blinded by the microwave and needed support to stay alive.
    These people were terrified by something they could not fight. And when they reached the forest line they even had their wits about them long enough to climb trees for dead branches to start a fire. No once the three able men disappeared into the snow for their camp and did not return within the hour the four remaining people huddled up and took the remaining clothes off their dead friends and then began to move out together. At this point they all knew they were going to die. The attacker most likely came back to finish the job, chasing them into a ravine. This was murder plain and simple, just because it was not by human hands does not make any less believable.
    The only question that will truly answer what really happened is why did they leave the tent unprepared? (No avalanche reported and even if it did it still does not explain the events that unfolded logically.)

  90. Rook Says:

    I would just like add.

    All those that think its an Avalanche, please stop. Seriously. think about it. If you were the Russia soldiers sent to dig all this up and figure out what happened, would it not be easier just to say it was mother nature and say glad it wasn’t me. Y

    Their is something to be said about seeing dead people,
    sometimes

    The simplest answer however unlikely is your answer.

  91. Rook Says:

    I would just like add. Sorry one Message was sent early.

    All those that think its an Avalanche, please stop. Seriously. think about it. If you were the Russia soldiers sent to dig all this up and figure out what happened, would it not be easier just to say it was mother nature and be glad it wasn’t you. Its insulting to all the people that actually had to take care of those poor souls. Besides their is something to be said about seeing dead people, you can look at them and get a sense on how they died, you can ignore it, but all those involved felt something was wrong out place for either mother nature, or foul play. Hell some of the chopper pilots didn’t even want them on-board their aircraft. That tells you how spooked these men were about the whole thing. The soldiers were decent men baffled by the brutal nature in which they found these people. That says a lot.

    The simplest answer however unlikely is your answer. What happened, they panicked, why did they panic? Why run from base camp only to turn around and try to get back to it. Smart, rational people do not panic like that, especially nine of them.

    Now they did say their was metal fragmentation nearby, could have been a explosive of some kind, but they would have seen trauma on victims. Scrap metal like ANC described earlier. Maybe they had a grenade and threw it at whatever was chasing them. And after it went off, the object kept coming scaring them witless.

    Lets also entertain the idea that their tent was hit by a small slide of ice, causing them to cut their way out of their tent and decide to head for the trees.
    Clearly the snow that hit the tent would have startled them, but once it stopped. Why panic, why the rush, unless something was pushing them. Experienced climbers to not run bare foot, shoe less and half clothed from base camp. Period!!!

    Either mother Russia had Microwave weapons, which is possible, but if they did successfully use that weapon then, the cold war would have ended very differently. It was an alien, corny as it sounds but it fits the description of how things played out to a degree that makes more sense then an other solution. The thing that killed them did it slowly and enjoyed it. If the folklore stories described on AA are even remotely true. What are you left with.

    Sometimes real life is stranger then fiction.
    PS. If someone has topographical map or pic link. I would be grateful.

  92. Dawn Says:

    Absolutely agree with you Rook. Your theory makes sense, do I believe alien in this case too? Yes I do without hesitation, there are some things that science can’t explain and too much evidence to support alien life existing, as well as we would be conceited to believe we are ‘it’ . There is nothing of it in evidence of this earth to cause the injuries unless weaponry and if so would simply have been covered up, not exposed in the free way this case has been.
    Doesn’t sound corny to me at all, it sounds realistic and logical. There is something else which brings me to my own very similar conclusion on what happened but as it involves belief in alien life I don’t wish to offend so I’ll leave it there, shame there isn’t a members type system so msg’s could be sent on a pm basis.

  93. Kelvin Crenshaw Says:

    This theory is incorrect in my opinion. The only plausible explanation relative
    to this incident as far as I am concerned is extraterrestrials. There are no radiation test that
    target the extraction of human tongues (with no sign of blood).
    You (author) are one of the many people who have been programmed by your goverment to only relate
    to and understand the bullshit that they feed you. Soon everyone will see that we are not alone.

  94. James Says:

    I believe this whole thing might be a hoax, because I offered a possible outcome to the disaster with proof of how bodies like that can sustain injuries without aliens involved at another website. Funny my posts never get posted, I guess mysteries generate more money and traffic then solved mysteries.

  95. ANC Says:

    James,

    Please repost your ideas because you have my curiosity now. You never know if just one word or just one phrase may help to solve what happened on Kholat Syakhl that night to the Dyatlov Group.

  96. james Says:

    ANC

    You guys need to search the web and find the autopsy reports, cause if you examine them closer you will figure out how they died, the bigger problem is, I find it hard to believe because the necessary force required cave in a chest is in excess of what any normal human weigh can do. And last time I check 400-600 lbs men don’t really go around snowy mountains dead of night. You guys got your self a primate mauling, plain in simple. Whether you want to call it bigfoot, yeti, rainman, etc, I don’t care. The autopsy report screams primate behaviour, face deformation, dead bodies played with, Woman’s tongue was removed, etc Hell I suspect that she might even had been on her period, drawing the primates in, causing them to attack.
    The real question is, did the Russian special forces go in afterwards to hunt them down. Cause I wish I could go back in time to have joined them! I can prove how all the injuries were caused during the attack off the autopsy reports. It ain’t pretty but it works. And no special forces unit would be that sloppy. They had all the time in the world to stage it just right, and you sure as hell don’t waste time setting up this ridiculous scene. No set up here, just a plain and simple primate kill.

  97. ANC Says:

    James, I agree with you. I have read the autopsy reports, they are in Russina so a translator is needed. At one point I thought maybe two members fell out of the pine tree on to the two victims who had flail chest. I no longer can justify this because that type of injury would have produced massive visible external injuries which was not the case with Semen and Dubinina

  98. maid Says:

    i am student of astrobiology,,, we study about the origins of life and life forms on other planets,, unfortunately i was not able to read all the comments but i red most of them, i have red many things about this case since 9 month ago, first of all i should say that there are at least more than a 100,000 plants in which can support life forms only in our solar system, and among them may some be intelligent. now with the help of kepler telescope we have just headed to find them, but in this case of hikers nothing is certain yet. to me what is certain is that 1. they were 10 and in the last day, just before going toward the mountain a guy whose name was (yuri yudin) got sick and went back home,it will be interesting if you read his statement, once hi said: if i could ask just one question from god i would ask him what happened to my friends that night. later he said he attended the funeral of the first 5, and he said he was shocked to see the orange color on the skins, and he also mentioned that the volunteer rescue team was assembled in (20 feb) and the army joined the a few days later. but the crime investigation team was formed the same days!!!! 2. the second certain thing is that if there was some thing outside of the tent first they would have checked them by opening the tent main exit! i mean what ever the threat was it was inside the tent,, it was inside, may be some thing had entered from. . . ground! or… i do not know, but what ever it was it was terrifying and inside the tent. we should also consider the multidimensional things. i just wanna say, our electrons in our atoms are preventing us from crossing through an abject like a tent, but all the life forms are not the same. all life on earth of every kind is carbon based and have electrons. but yet it is not certain that extraterritorials were involved, it needs more proofs.

  99. maid Says:

    sorry, i have to correct that i meant to say 100,000 planets in our milky way galaxy. not solar system.

  100. Boban Says:

    I think there are a few things which are important
    1, They are contaminated with radiation….at least one of them
    2, The sun tan on their skin could be from the sun. They are on the mountain hike right?
    3, They are students of polytechnic institute, so they probably are familiar with the radioactive devices. Their contamination f.e. the clothes could be from the university….(One of them could spread the contamination to others)
    4, Something was happening in the sky that night. There are witnesses.
    5, There could be avalanche, in which one person bit out her tongue.
    6, The whole area was closed for the next three years…….by military.

    I presume that the whole group was in stress. Therefore they used the knife the cutout the tent. This is familiar with the avalanche warning or avalanche theory. They split to two groups. One of them was hit by avalanche the other were not. Simple……One thing on this whole story is really interesting. Nikita Chrushcev was the first secretary of the state. He ordered the full investigation and was briefed by the top army generals about it. The case was closed rapidly….So there was nothing interesting about it or there was something very interesting…..I think the truth is somewhere between. The whole area of Urals and area nearby the Sverdlovsk is very important from the army research. There were a lot of factories secret facotires and army industrial complexes. So I presume that this group was killed by the army, for example by the test of the rocket or small nuclear blasts in low altitude. Or it could be only the test of new nonnuclear bomb similar to the barometric bomb which use the air for combustion. Later as the army found the bodies or realized the deaths there were a mass coverup. And this coverup includes the radioactivity contamination and rumors about the tongue out and possible UFO connections. I think the whole story is much more simple and the whole story is fabricated by the people and by some agency. Probably by the KGB….

  101. ANC Says:

    I always thought it was very weird in the autopsies that the pathologist would go out of his way to describe onemof the victims missing tooth and how, in detail, it was an old trauma and then how another female victim was missing her tongue and he gave no details whatsoever. I think he was instructed, in Soviet Russia, to keep his mouth shut when writing his reports but by over describing a missing tooth he let loose about the missing tongue or as best as he possibly could.

  102. DEMON Says:

    a lot of people are forgetting the fact that before this incident occurred the same thing was supposed to have happened to 9 hikers along long time before. they to where also found mutilated and the circumstances where also very similar and mysterious. the coroner in the 1955 incident actually refused to sign of his report and resigned. I think when translated to English the name of the area and mountain say quite abit about this place and its history also.