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	<title>Comments on: Fascism comes to DC</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/06/05/fascism-comes-to-dc/comment-page-1/#comment-28867</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A decent legal analysis is available at &lt;a href=&quot;http://volokh.com/posts/1212701862.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://volokh.com/posts/1212701862.shtml&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A decent legal analysis is available at <a href="http://volokh.com/posts/1212701862.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://volokh.com/posts/1212701862.shtml</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: drinian</title>
		<link>http://www.cydeweys.com/blog/2008/06/05/fascism-comes-to-dc/comment-page-1/#comment-28771</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, there was historically &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mint&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a small area in London&lt;/a&gt; that came under the jurisdiction of no government for a few centuries. Dystopian pasts and futures have much in common.

Not much to comment on, really, other than that I wonder how they&#039;re going to deal with people who don&#039;t carry ID. I would imagine these targeted neighborhoods have a higher-than-average proportion of people without government-issued ID. This is just a really bad idea; it sounds copied from TSA&#039;s belief that 1) having ID means something useful and 2) it&#039;s possible to somehow create a meaningful &quot;secure zone.&quot;

To be fair, as I was once told by someone who lived in a Baltimore housing project, if a white person were foolish enough to enter the project, just about every male in the place would run and hide, assuming it&#039;s someone from the police coming to follow up on a warrant -- apparently just about everyone has an outstanding bench warrant. Checking ID would probably pull in a lot of people, if they so desired.

My guess as well is that they would be much better off with a holistic approach, regardless of the obvious civil-liberties problems, but I&#039;m not a cop. I&#039;d be curious to know the opinion of the people who will be protected by the &quot;secure zone;&quot; the law-abiding citizens who will be let through the cordon. Freedom of movement is, generally speaking, considered constitutionally protected. And there&#039;s nothing much more intimidating than knowing that you can be arrested simply for not having the right piece of paper with you. Soviet, indeed.

Also, I think it goes without saying that it&#039;s not only &quot;economic factors&quot; driving crime; among others, criminalization of many activities also takes its toll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there was historically <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mint" rel="nofollow">a small area in London</a> that came under the jurisdiction of no government for a few centuries. Dystopian pasts and futures have much in common.</p>
<p>Not much to comment on, really, other than that I wonder how they&#8217;re going to deal with people who don&#8217;t carry ID. I would imagine these targeted neighborhoods have a higher-than-average proportion of people without government-issued ID. This is just a really bad idea; it sounds copied from TSA&#8217;s belief that 1) having ID means something useful and 2) it&#8217;s possible to somehow create a meaningful &#8220;secure zone.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be fair, as I was once told by someone who lived in a Baltimore housing project, if a white person were foolish enough to enter the project, just about every male in the place would run and hide, assuming it&#8217;s someone from the police coming to follow up on a warrant &#8212; apparently just about everyone has an outstanding bench warrant. Checking ID would probably pull in a lot of people, if they so desired.</p>
<p>My guess as well is that they would be much better off with a holistic approach, regardless of the obvious civil-liberties problems, but I&#8217;m not a cop. I&#8217;d be curious to know the opinion of the people who will be protected by the &#8220;secure zone;&#8221; the law-abiding citizens who will be let through the cordon. Freedom of movement is, generally speaking, considered constitutionally protected. And there&#8217;s nothing much more intimidating than knowing that you can be arrested simply for not having the right piece of paper with you. Soviet, indeed.</p>
<p>Also, I think it goes without saying that it&#8217;s not only &#8220;economic factors&#8221; driving crime; among others, criminalization of many activities also takes its toll.</p>
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